While I do very much appreciate the roundtime being reduced from 30 seconds to 10 for untying a pouch, I'm still not thrilled about this change.

I really would like to know why simply reducing the weight of tied pouches would not have been enough. It feels like a penalty to this entire guild and I'm not sure that there's any significant gain of having people going from say 30 tied pouches with reduced weight to 4 or 5 pouches with reduced weight.

30 > 5

30 ~= 1/5 of a newish vault
30 ~= 15% of total max on hand inventory

5 would be 1/6 of these numbers. Do you think the hunter wants to carry 30 pouches with him when he goes out on a hunting trip?

thanks for the change

>Guarenteed sale for some trader, somewhere.

This is everything that's wrong about the trader guild right now.

Well, that and the fact that actual trading makes less money than hunting.

And the total lack of dev.

But yeah, point 1 bothers me.

This change sucks. Seriously.

hypotheticaly the gem pouch trading cap is lets say at 2 plats per pouch, meaning wether the pouch is 2 plats or 20000000 plats we learn exactly the same. How is a bigger pouch beneficial to a Trader? It isnt. We are expected to deal with mind numbing amounts of RT to split pouches, while impatient people want their pouches sold NOW or accuse us of skimming if we offer to buy the pouches in order to split them later.

THANKS FOR THE GREAT CHANGE!!!

not


Martyka

P.S. Again that was a hypothetical scenario, I do not know what the cap on a pouch is.

I'd settle for one 4000 plat gem.

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>>You could raise the cap so that experience gain stops at something like 300 platinum

It wasn't that easy :-P.


However, we took a look at the experience curves and tweaked them significantly. The old experience limited you your experience gain by your level rather than letting your skills affect it. Additionally, it would only give so much experience at a time, and would cause a time-delay for rest, which was the root cause of only seeing trading experience a second or two after the pouch sale.

This was silly enough to elicit several colorful swears that could only be repeated in TF, end even then Copernicus would probably blush.

The trading experience has been tweaked to scale with skill rather than level, and to scale properly with pouch sizes.

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<<It wasn't that easy :-P.>>

I figured as much. ;)

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can ya tackle the exp loose from the new exp system to contracts.


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>Copernicus never blushes.
I'm 99% positive he has once.

Thank you for looking at the experience and working on it.


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Thanks a bunch for looking into this Socharis.

<<The trading experience has been tweaked to scale with skill rather than level, and to scale properly with pouch sizes.

Is there any ceiling to the pouch size? Or will a 1000 plat pouch teach >>> a 100 plat pouch >> 10 plat pouch?

Nikpack

The gods are jerks. No, really.
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Awesome. You rock Socharis!


Nikpack

The gods are jerks. No, really.
-Armifer

>>I'll take a look at increasing financing amounts, as well, but that's unfortunately not going to be as fast of a turnaround.


I really object to this. Increasing financing amounts is not going to solve any problems but just make bigger the problems that already exsists(okay, maybe an exception for TF if their amounts can be raised separate from the other instances). Right now a player can have a pet trader sit at a financable shop. They can then sell their gem pouches, have the trader log in, collect the pouch and refinance. Yes, it is possible that you might be able to catch it at a time when some else used up their finance amount, but its not easy. Have to hope to hit it at the right time, or be a trader that spends 5 minutes of every half hour checking if a shop can be financed.

What needs to be changed is to make it that there is a queue within the gem shops. Not sure how hard or limits, but a line of 5-10 traders would be nice.

>>I really object to this.

As I said, I'll take a look. I'm not going to increase potential for abuse, don't worry.

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"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.

JM90, what I mainly see is that people have just one account. So they would have to go to another trader if they wanted to get a better price for their pouches. As you know though, money has become almost meaningless. Higher level players only collect coins in order to bid on special auction items. Therefore, when money becomes meaningless, why not just sell the pouches and help get experience on a secondary character?


If I was a TF player(and considering I'm plat think of doing a trader there) I'd script a trader to 15th or so. Sit them at the gem shop my main character used. If unable to to sell pouches, log them in to finance and sell pouches as needed.