So, I rented a caravan from Fayrin's rest and they gave me one described as 'sithannik,' but what does that mean? I haven't seen it used in too many other places, I remember seeing a pair of earrings in a trader shop that were sithannik, but that's about it. It's also listed under 'animal' scents for the SMELL verb, so I take it that it is some sort of an animal that pulls caravans, but does anyone know anything more about it?
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RAIST
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
10/31/2011 11:41 PM CDT
>So, I rented a caravan from Fayrin's rest and they gave me one described as 'sithannik,' but what does that mean?
I believe it's a type of wood.
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I believe it's a type of wood.
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REASONMJ
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
10/31/2011 11:45 PM CDT
The best guess I have read is that "sithannik" is Gerenshuge for "Hill Horse", and that they are best approximated as RL llamas (source: Zeltaen)
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DYERA7
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/01/2011 12:32 AM CDT
I flipped through the Gerenshuge dictionaries and it turns out horse is 'keirel' and hill is 'kreg', as in those things on Aesry. Interesting to find out where that name came from though.
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REASONMJ
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/01/2011 12:42 AM CDT
>>I flipped through the Gerenshuge dictionaries and it turns out horse is 'keirel' and hill is 'kreg', as in those things on Aesry. Interesting to find out where that name came from though.
Oh right, I fail at copy/pasting. That was the section on Kregkeirals. Here's the copy/paste of his section for Sithanniks:
>"The sky can be glimpsed through the tangled, dead branches of the sodden trees standing sentinel in the boggy ground. To the north, the mountains rise like sithannik backs, while close by the path northwards lies a pool of murky water. The reek of decaying things belches from the pool when its contents settle and air bubbles burst on the surface. "
>I think they're bactrian (2-humped) camels. DR refers to one-humped camels as dromedaries and makes no reference to the bactrian variety, probably because there is no Bactria in Elanthia.
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Oh right, I fail at copy/pasting. That was the section on Kregkeirals. Here's the copy/paste of his section for Sithanniks:
>"The sky can be glimpsed through the tangled, dead branches of the sodden trees standing sentinel in the boggy ground. To the north, the mountains rise like sithannik backs, while close by the path northwards lies a pool of murky water. The reek of decaying things belches from the pool when its contents settle and air bubbles burst on the surface. "
>I think they're bactrian (2-humped) camels. DR refers to one-humped camels as dromedaries and makes no reference to the bactrian variety, probably because there is no Bactria in Elanthia.
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DR-ARNIMAS
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 07:17 AM CDT
I love it when players find the resources that they need to figure these things out. While I'm sure that there are things we need more documentation on, we have a pretty wide variety of resources and it's great that players have taken the time to discover some of these. While I could be wrong, I think this is the first time that I've seen the documentation quoted for both kregkeirals and sithanniks. Since you have done that, I have no issue confirming that you have sithanniks 100% correct, they are 2-humped camels.
What I like just as much is when translations are done from the dictionary. Discovering the name means 'hill horse' gives you a general idea but we have to keep in mind that names given are often based on someone comparing a new animal against an existing one. The kregkeirals are not horses, but rather an animal that bears a resemblance to a horse but is well suited to climbing hills and steep inclines. It was based on a real-life animal and I've seen guesses in the past that have figured it out. However, I have never revealed this one because I think it's best that we get to use our imaginations. This is similar to when a DR weapon name exists that no one can Google to see an image. We all have our own ideas of what it looks like and there's no harm in that.
As a side note, if I ever release new draft animals, expect some them to have some racial names that can be translated. I think these are sometimes a bit more fun, especially when they turn the heads of non-Traders as you pass by. :)
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What I like just as much is when translations are done from the dictionary. Discovering the name means 'hill horse' gives you a general idea but we have to keep in mind that names given are often based on someone comparing a new animal against an existing one. The kregkeirals are not horses, but rather an animal that bears a resemblance to a horse but is well suited to climbing hills and steep inclines. It was based on a real-life animal and I've seen guesses in the past that have figured it out. However, I have never revealed this one because I think it's best that we get to use our imaginations. This is similar to when a DR weapon name exists that no one can Google to see an image. We all have our own ideas of what it looks like and there's no harm in that.
As a side note, if I ever release new draft animals, expect some them to have some racial names that can be translated. I think these are sometimes a bit more fun, especially when they turn the heads of non-Traders as you pass by. :)
Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas
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GERSTEINJ2
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 08:06 AM CDT
my prime-side s'kra trader would definately enjoy running the routes with shalswar hooked up to his caravan... :-)
all hail the world dragon. :-)
all hail the world dragon. :-)
RAIST
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 06:40 PM CDT
>This is similar to when a DR weapon name exists that no one can Google to see an image. We all have our own ideas of what it looks like and there's no harm in that.
I'm sorry, but I have to emphatically disagree with you, even though I suspect your statement is slightly out of context.
There is very little I despise more than coming across a weapon and not knowing whether it was a weapon, or even what kind of weapon it is.
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I'm sorry, but I have to emphatically disagree with you, even though I suspect your statement is slightly out of context.
There is very little I despise more than coming across a weapon and not knowing whether it was a weapon, or even what kind of weapon it is.
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DR-ARNIMAS
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 08:35 PM CDT
<< I'm sorry, but I have to emphatically disagree with you, even though I suspect your statement is slightly out of context.
It may not have been the best of comparisons but I stand by it. As a player, I was sometimes frustrated trying to figure out what a given weapon was at times as well. However, it did cause me to use my imagination and I think anytime that we do that, it is a 'good thing'. I love this game because it doesn't always show me what the monsters, terrain or some item that I had looked like. It gave me some text that I could then use my imagination to bring to life. It's much like when I read a book and talk with a friend about it. While a given character may have a description, we often imagine them looking quite different in the details. I often compare characters to people I know in my life, while another friend of mine keeps imagining females as famous actresses and the males as himself. :)
I'm not going to argue though, as we all have our own opinions about such things. Instead, let's have some fun? I don't want to reveal what the kregkeirals are in RL because I didn't design them. Instead, anyone that wants to participate may respond and let's see what our imaginations had settled upon?
What RL animal do you imagine when you hear 'hill horse'?
Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas
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It may not have been the best of comparisons but I stand by it. As a player, I was sometimes frustrated trying to figure out what a given weapon was at times as well. However, it did cause me to use my imagination and I think anytime that we do that, it is a 'good thing'. I love this game because it doesn't always show me what the monsters, terrain or some item that I had looked like. It gave me some text that I could then use my imagination to bring to life. It's much like when I read a book and talk with a friend about it. While a given character may have a description, we often imagine them looking quite different in the details. I often compare characters to people I know in my life, while another friend of mine keeps imagining females as famous actresses and the males as himself. :)
I'm not going to argue though, as we all have our own opinions about such things. Instead, let's have some fun? I don't want to reveal what the kregkeirals are in RL because I didn't design them. Instead, anyone that wants to participate may respond and let's see what our imaginations had settled upon?
What RL animal do you imagine when you hear 'hill horse'?
Best Regards,
~GM Arnimas
"Wealth is not his that has it, but his who enjoys it."
-Benjamin Franklin
RAIST
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 09:01 PM CDT
>What RL animal do you imagine when you hear 'hill horse'?
I get two rather conflicting images:
* Mountain goat (it's a horsey that lives on hills)
* Elephant (it's a horsey that is a hill)
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I get two rather conflicting images:
* Mountain goat (it's a horsey that lives on hills)
* Elephant (it's a horsey that is a hill)
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DYERA7
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 09:11 PM CDT
>What RL animal do you imagine when you hear 'hill horse'?
Well, I though about it, and what about a horse not just good for walking uphills, but also shaped like a hill? I'm thinking about something like the one-humped camel mentioned earlier. It looks a bit like a horse with a hill on it.
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Well, I though about it, and what about a horse not just good for walking uphills, but also shaped like a hill? I'm thinking about something like the one-humped camel mentioned earlier. It looks a bit like a horse with a hill on it.
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KROONERMANREVENGE
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 09:21 PM CDT
>There is very little I despise more than coming across a weapon and not knowing whether it was a weapon, or even what kind of weapon it is.
This echoes my thoughts on player held items/gear.
Though in buildings, caravans, descriptions, possibly NPCs, and other things, where it's not...a weapon/bread pointed at me do I panic and kill him, run, both, or ask for butter, type situation, I like it.
Examples are the hill horses, sithannik, etc. found here. I think it adds flavor, and as long as the resources remain in game to translate/etc. it's all cool.
But yes, no player items name woraldaktacktoes or whatever gibberish. The Kaldar items at the fest are a good example. It's a hat, with fancy race-related stuff, and even fancy race-related name that's still called 'a hat'.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
This echoes my thoughts on player held items/gear.
Though in buildings, caravans, descriptions, possibly NPCs, and other things, where it's not...a weapon/bread pointed at me do I panic and kill him, run, both, or ask for butter, type situation, I like it.
Examples are the hill horses, sithannik, etc. found here. I think it adds flavor, and as long as the resources remain in game to translate/etc. it's all cool.
But yes, no player items name woraldaktacktoes or whatever gibberish. The Kaldar items at the fest are a good example. It's a hat, with fancy race-related stuff, and even fancy race-related name that's still called 'a hat'.
Let's save us all some time: I'm a troll who rarely has anything helpful. There.
RMOCKENSTURM
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/02/2011 09:52 PM CDT
<<What RL animal do you imagine when you hear 'hill horse'?
I thought goat or a mule, or it could go the opposite direction, Clydesdale style for the power to pull up a steep but easily traversable hill.
Trivia snippet. Horsepower: The ability to generate 550 footpounds per second. A healthy human can produce about 1.2 hp briefly and sustain about 0.1 hp indefinitely; trained athletes can manage up to about 2.5 hp briefly and 0.3 hp for a period of several hours
I thought goat or a mule, or it could go the opposite direction, Clydesdale style for the power to pull up a steep but easily traversable hill.
Trivia snippet. Horsepower: The ability to generate 550 footpounds per second. A healthy human can produce about 1.2 hp briefly and sustain about 0.1 hp indefinitely; trained athletes can manage up to about 2.5 hp briefly and 0.3 hp for a period of several hours
BEVERAGEK
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/03/2011 12:39 AM CDT
I wouldn't mind weirdly-named things so much if it described what I was looking at with the use of the DESCRIBE verb.
Like I might see a snorginfotz and LOOK at it and see nothing unusual. Then I might APPRAISE it and see that it is just worn, and that it doesn't have stats like a weapon or armor. If I DESCRIBE'd it I'd like for the game to tell me that it is a purple flower with five petals. Now I could imagine that same flower a whole different way than someone else imagining the flower, but at least we would both be on the same page in that it was a flower rather than me imagining a great big turtle shell and my friend imagining a glow in the dark doll :P
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Like I might see a snorginfotz and LOOK at it and see nothing unusual. Then I might APPRAISE it and see that it is just worn, and that it doesn't have stats like a weapon or armor. If I DESCRIBE'd it I'd like for the game to tell me that it is a purple flower with five petals. Now I could imagine that same flower a whole different way than someone else imagining the flower, but at least we would both be on the same page in that it was a flower rather than me imagining a great big turtle shell and my friend imagining a glow in the dark doll :P
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DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/03/2011 01:51 AM CDT
>>me imagining a great big turtle shell
Spangleflange
>>and my friend imagining a glow in the dark doll :P
Flarmencrank
Now imagine that little song the Gnome workman sings again. You don't wanna know what I think a glarmencoupler is.
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Spangleflange
>>and my friend imagining a glow in the dark doll :P
Flarmencrank
Now imagine that little song the Gnome workman sings again. You don't wanna know what I think a glarmencoupler is.
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ALEPH-ONE
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/04/2011 07:00 AM CDT
>>While I could be wrong, I think this is the first time that I've seen the documentation quoted for both kregkeirals and sithanniks. Since you have done that, I have no issue confirming that you have sithanniks 100% correct, they are 2-humped camels.
After much meditation and discussion on the beastly riddle "what is a kregkeiral?", including the discovery of this item:
>a monk's cassock of undyed kregkeiral wool
We have decided that the answer is:
Alpaca.
-- Player of Eyuve
After much meditation and discussion on the beastly riddle "what is a kregkeiral?", including the discovery of this item:
>a monk's cassock of undyed kregkeiral wool
We have decided that the answer is:
Alpaca.
-- Player of Eyuve
SCHULTZS3
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/12/2011 03:01 PM CST
>Alpaca.
Per wikipedia:
>Alpacas are considerably smaller than llamas, and unlike llamas, they were not bred to be beasts of burden, but were bred specifically for their fiber
I'm going with llama.
Naniaki
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
Per wikipedia:
>Alpacas are considerably smaller than llamas, and unlike llamas, they were not bred to be beasts of burden, but were bred specifically for their fiber
I'm going with llama.
Naniaki
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
ALEPH-ONE
Re: What does it mean to be sithannik?
11/12/2011 04:40 PM CST
>>I'm going with llama.
You know, I wanted to go with llama, but my friends pushed for alpaca. You have convinced me though.
-- Player of Eyuve
You know, I wanted to go with llama, but my friends pushed for alpaca. You have convinced me though.
-- Player of Eyuve
