>>Rippentropps.

Huh.

They're Danes, not Rippentropps.

- Mazrian

You know, before you post something, it really does help if you have a clue what you're talking about. Here, I'll help:

1) It's Ignifera
2) Neketsie got 150 plat, instead of 1500 plat (the cloak was shadowsilk, by the way)
3) Neketsie is a female, not a 'fellow'
4) >How she acted in the trader guild today was completely unacceptable. When a trader stated something she didnt like, she was thumped repeatedly, in the empath guild.
This doesn't even make sense. What guild was Martyka in when it happened, the trader guild or the empath guild? What exactly is wrong with thumping someone who is annoying you, anyway?
5) Sebastienne is a female, so is Ignifera
6) >However, it really makes you loathe bought trash like Sebastienne when he uses the character to pretty much act like an idiot.
Seb is again female, and not bought. Try again.
7) >His IG wife pretty much said what she wanted, shielded behind Sebastienne.
Iggy always says whatever she wants. She did before she married Seb, she continues to after the marriage.
8) What does this have to do with Marty again?

I didn't look at the genders. Martyka acted like an idiot, and stated Iguana was her best friend, so I assumed they were all in it together. The way Iguana acted she doesn't deserve to be called by anything other than Iguana. I apologize about the thumping comment, Martyka thumped an empath in the empath guild, not a trader. Ill bring whoever I want into this, several of the Rippentrops I have run into in the past seem to have been likeable people. It just seems like when something happens, they cant seem to control it any other way than with violents. Also, if one of them is not big enough to win whatever argument he is having, he has to cry to other people in the gang to help. Seb is bought trash, you might not know that, but I do (not that I am for or against the buying of characters, but when kids use the characters to act like morons it becomes a problem.

Seb acted like a man, so I thought it was a man. Some of the Rippentropps (several I didnt name) acted like complete morons. Of course, once it really got rolling, they seemed to want to call everyone with the same last name that was playing at that time. I could care less if you want to all give yourselves the same last name and act like morons. However, do expect to be called out on it when it happens.


Thanks,

Kreece

>> It just seems like when something happens, they cant seem to control it any other way than with violents.

And it seems like when something bad happens to people like you, you can't handle it any other way than talking trash and trying to bring in higher circle alts or friends to handle it for you.

Glass houses, stones, etc.

>> Seb is bought trash, you might not know that, but I do

Except you don't.

I've known Sebastienne's player since before the character was even created.

Sebastienne isn't bought.

>> I could care less if you want to all give yourselves the same last name and act like morons. However, do expect to be called out on it when it happens.

Sebastienne and Ignifera are a part of their own family. Their last name is Dane.

Martyka is a Rippentropp and had nothing to do with this conflict except thumping someone who wouldn't cut out the angry rambling vitriolic insults despite warnings.

Like I said, you really do not want to bring the Rippentropps into this.

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Rev. Reene

Idon: Why are we taunting the happy fun Y'shai, again?
Me: Idon know.
Idon: You disgust me.
Me: At least I'm not trying to Phelim up.
Idon: Makes me wonder what she's doing to the World Dragon.

<<Seb acted like a man, so I thought it was a man.>>

if you expect all females to "act" like giggly and helpless, yer gonna be verra shocked to learn that a female can "act" any way she wants.




<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>

I'm not sure why insulting people blah blah blah, would be a better way to resolve a situation than violence.

Navak generally sets out to win the overall PR battle when he gets into a conflict since that is a more complete victory. It even allows for losing in PvP which is handy since I haven't really trained him for like 2 years or more.

I am --- Navak

Sebastienne's not bought.

Everything Seb and Iggy did was consistant with the way they each play their character.

What do the Rippentropps have to with this at all?


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"I for one welcome our new Lithping Overlordth."

> Correcting a mistype is the number one sign that you have no point

Poking fun at your typo is hardly pointing and laughing at your inability to type correctly. Typos happen, that one amused me. Calm down.

> I really can not prove it at all, so I will leave that one alone.

Good boy.

> There were really so many Rippentropps and some others that showed up that I really could not keep all the names in line even if I wanted to.

Here's the people that were there:

Also here: Thug Martyka, Meridien, Ignifera, Medic Kindelwyn, Rainkisses, Escaper Lazgweri, Show Fighter Mordimer, Hodierna's Hand Faeldrin who is sitting, Bookie Karnas, Ghost Aseron, Arcane Skulker Aules, Escaping Novice Neketsie, Apprentice Empath Lunasa, Elemental Liability Posiden, Amazon Jenealle, Zameo, Medicine Woman Kalyndara, Journeyman Ranger Yamato, Doakes, Exorcist Taysin, Sorrower Zamara who is sitting, Trauma Prodigy Dwele who is sitting, Orelk who is kneeling, Scalper Mordicum.

One Rippentrop I believe, that being Martyka. You're right though there were SO MANY IT WAS CRAZY.

> Also, dont bother to respond unless you sign your post, thanks!

Also note that Kreece was strangely absent. Hiding maybe, but he never said a word during the actual conflict. So you're either hiding who you are, or it just took you several hours after it happened to find the guts to do something about it -- and then you ruined that by taking it here and acting like a fool.

SIGNED
SEBASTIENNE RIPPENTR...NO WAIT DANE!@#

>I prefer to be as helpful as I can most of the time, and I surely do not start with people 60 levels under me so that I can completely own them and flex my text muscles.

Last I checked Iggy was circle 0.


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"I for one welcome our new Lithping Overlordth."

Oh this is moving fast.

> The PR battle means very little to me too, as I have friends in real life, and have no need for them in this game

"We didn't want to win that battle anyway"

> I prefer to be as helpful as I can most of the time

And we don't. What's so hard to understand about that? Our way of playing is just as valid as yours.

> I surely do not start with people 60 levels under me so that I can completely own them and flex my text muscles.

Bring me someone closer to my circle and have them give me an opportunity and I'll have my way with them too.

> When I ever do get into a small squabble with people that I can completely own, I try my best not to take it that direction, or just walk away.

Congratulations, not everyone does it the way you do.

> Yeah, you are going to win, but what have you really proven?

It's not about proving anything. That's where you're making a mistake. It's about getting something for nothing and making sure that everyone is afraid to do anything about it.

> In this case I "thought" Seb was a man by his mannerisms, not because of anything else.

This has got to be a joke. Seb didn't do anything but talk and she talks like a schoolgirl without contractions or slang. But the irony of this is probably not lost on a lot of us.

iv learned not to even bother trying to argue unless you grossly overpower the other person if yer lower and havent been around for many years nothing you can say or do will resolve your situasion. unless you manage to shame the other party into ponying up.

>>Thats the problem, there needs to be more IC consequences for your actions.

Such as?

Someone got killed, after entering a tourney area and threatening people they KNOW can kick their ass.

What is this "gang of people", who weren't even involved in this situation, doing that needs more consequences?

I'd say bar the trader who threatened to hire people for murder from anything guild sanctioned in Zoluren.

I am --- Navak

I have no idea what happened at the tourney, I could not attend. Neketsie could have acted like a complete moron and deserved what he got. I could really care less since I was not there, and could really care less what happens to Neketsie at all. I can only comment on one event, which I was there for, at the empath guild. What started out as someone asking for help degenerated into Neketsie being slammed, laughed at, and mocked by many people who all seemed to flood in for no apparent reason (other than the IM's im sure Seb was sending to all his buddies).

All in all, I really do not know why the people I discussed would be upset with what I posted. It seems as if they want to be portrayed as bad guys. If they want to RP bad guys who do mean and spiteful things Im all for it! If they just get off on it, then it becomes a problem. If you see a group of guys or girls being mean and hateful to another guy or girl, do you see them as just being different, or as being ignorant or "morons"?


Kreece

>> I just mean you can usually pick up on the mannerisms pretty well by the way they type. In this case I "thought" Seb was a man by his mannerisms, not because of anything else.>>

what, men type with 11 "fingers"????!!!!!



<<Sebastienne the character is female. Since we're talking about the actions of characters, that's pretty much what's relevant.
I will point out though that I've been told by multiple people that there is no way that I could possibly be female in real life because of how I play one of my characters.
As a friend of mine that met me in person put it to someone asking if I was really a woman, "She's either a woman or a very convincing transsexual." C'est la vie.>>

i play multiple characters, some are male, some are female. not to mention that i started off my main character as male, and surprised quite a few folks at simu98 when I attended and turned out to be a girl!

So.... in a text-based role-playing game the person behind the character can be anything. Don't make the mistake of gender-stereotyping, as -- just as an actor on the screen can be played by a male or a female <see mary martin as peter pan> - role-playing is precisely that. Playing a role that may or may not reflect what the player actually "is". I mean, I'm not really bald, nor a reptile, nor do I have a tail in RL. Yet I can "portray" a s'kra... And not everyone who plays a halfling or a gnome is short, nor is everyone who plays a Tog a giant.





<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>

Gah, you guys are going crazy on the gender thing. What I meant by mannerisms was that a lot of times females will use more femanine words. Hon, Sweetey (when reffering to someone other than thier partner), and a lot more hugs and such. Besides that I just made a 50/50 assumption. Either way, your character does not have to be the same gender as in RL so It has never really mattered (I have really paid very little attention to gender since I started the game). Now on to other things.

<<You must be an incredibly dense person>>

Because I said something you do not like? You said you were trying to be mean to everyone, thats why you RP. If so, why are you so defensive about it. If I RP's an evil sorcerer, and people came to the boards yelling that I was an evil, spiteful, mean, vengeful butthead, I think I would say thank you.

<<Add to that the fact that you were completely uninvolved in the conflict, apparently hiding whatever character you really did have there (I have my suspicions but I'll keep quiet, I'd be MORDIfied if I tossed someone's name out under false cirCUMstances) and this is a GREAT thread.>>

Kreece. It is at the bottom of every post I have made. I have made no attempt to hide anything.

<<Even after being corrected multiple times by multiple people you continue to make yourself look like an idiot, whether on purpose (sad) or not (sadder).>>

That is cute. Did you think of that one by yourself, or did Iguana help you?

<<It's just been awhile since I've dealt with someone like you. It's kind of like watching a puppy repeatedly run into a sliding glass door because it forgets that it's there. Part of you hopes the little guy will smarten up, and part of you just wants to sit there and laugh.>>

Man, you just keep coming up with those little phrases. Unfortunately for DR, I deal with people that act like you on a regular basis.


<<I'm curious though, why would you think it was Seb IMing people, and not, say, me? Or Marty, or EmpathSue who was sitting in the guild at the time?>>

I really had no idea, I knew it was probably one of you since people seemed to show up out of the woodwork.

<<A lot of it was wrong. I'm not particularly upset, but I'm also not going to let this level of misinformation go on without at least correcting some of it, especially since you initially seemed to be trying to hurt an almost entirely unrelated person's in game business with it.>>

Im glad. It really is not my intentions to make anyone upset. I know that once I leave this board nothing here weighs on my mind it all, it would be disturbing if it did.

<<Great! You should be all for it, then!>>

I am! But this is the conflicts folder. In the past, there has been a lot of people that I know that have personally got off on picking on lower players (rock trolls, old crocs come to mind). So I guess when I see something like that happen in a public place, it irks me a little. Im very suspect of RP in a lot of situations. I used to have a pretty good conflict going with Shakaar (I hope thats how you spell it, its been a long time ago). I have no idea if he still plays. And some of the things he said to me in whispers was just over the top (leet speak to the extreme)I guess I just want everyone to get along, and this isn't really the game for that :>P.

I have a fairly high level trader as well as a few others. I work the tables and stalls on occassion. I see Martyka quite a bit. I really do not mean to hurt anyones reputation, and I doubt anyone will not buy from Martyka because of what I said. She acted badly in that instance. She was really fishing for someone to say something out of the way to her in the empath guild, then thumped them when they did say something (nothing derogatory or bad at all). I think its always bad form to thump someone in their own guild, especially when your conflict is scrolling the hell out of the place :>).


Kreece

>> What I meant by mannerisms was that a lot of times females will use more femanine words. Hon, Sweetey (when reffering to someone other than thier partner), and a lot more hugs and such.

>Sexist! SEXIST!

Oh come on, that isn't sexist, that's reality. Judging by name and actions, I can determine someone's gender probably 95% of the time.

<<Was not there. He doesn't show up even once in my logs. So you're lying or getting it second hand -- my money is on the latter, since you're getting everything wrong.>>

I was there, better check them again. If I was not there, I can guarantee you I would not care. In fact, I really stopped caring after I wrote the first message. The person Marty thumped name was something that started with an X. The one you (if your Seb) thumped after she got her vocal chords back in the empath guild.


Kreece

>>I bet you don't invest real emotions into these posts too.

everyone does from time to time

>>I'd say bar the trader who threatened to hire people for murder from anything guild sanctioned in Zoluren.

Hey, what'd I do to get pulled into this discussion? And it wasn't a threat, he was paid well for it.

~Zaktraw

It was a player taking advantage of a mechanics mistake, nothing more. If the buyer had whispered, 'hey I'll give you the rest but I'd like to RP like you got ripped off for the fun of it' that'd be different. The seller missed a zero, easily done on an item with so many zeroes in it. When was the last time you had a merchant sell you something less than it really was by a factor of TEN? A few cents here or there I can see but what happened was plain wrong. Do the right thing and pay what you agreed upon or let the other Player feel ripped off, since their character feels nothing.

Just my opinion of course.

Player of too many

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You would argue with a wall if it had "No, You Are!" written on it. Let it go. - Quote by Carolint