Why do thieves need an armor requirement? It seems to me that if any guild is meant to go armorless, it is the thieves. Down with the armor req! I am an angry mob of one!

Twitchet


"No sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find...I shall KILL you."

hey my plan is to get enough evasion ranks i won't need armor.


Yamcer

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>hey my plan is to get enough evasion ranks i won't need armor.

No such thing buddy boy.

-Ipkin

Well I AM a moron! I died just as often when I wore leather as I do without it. I guess I'm just good at running away like a sissy when I get punched in the eye or nicked in the throat. I think that if someone chooses to RP a thief who doesn't like being hindered by armor in any way, that choice shouldn't prevent them from advancing in the guild. Wearin armor seems pretty unthiefly to me, despite the fact that lucky hits make it helpful when training combat.


Twitchet


"No sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find...I shall KILL you."

Talk to Tulls, he didn't wear armor for a long time, and with the req change he went backwards a lot. He ended up switching to chain I believe. Course I slept in the last months since he was talking about it on the boards. But Thieves like that are out there, you don't want to wear it? Dont, get the min req per circle. Its not that bad, by the time you are worth anything as a thief, you still don't have that many by min reqs, unless you train above that. Meh


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"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."

THAT sounds promising. Would love it if my leather longcoat offered some body protection. Could even add head protection when the hood was up!

Twitchet


"No sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find...I shall KILL you."

there is still a min hindrance based off armor type you can't work anything down to 0. same for stealth hinderance it's min is a set number based off armor type. I'd assume cloth would be lower on both than leather there by giving you more effective ranks to defenses and stealth


Yamcer

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You will never not need armor. There will always be someone out there that could hit you.

And at that time you'd probably rather be well protected.

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Okay, then take off the shield and put it away in the vault, since I barely have any ranks in it. And what do I get? Unhindered. Sure, thieves can work leather down to what.. 5%? Something like that. And leather is not hard to work down. So I'm just about there. Onoes! 5% hinderance! Horrible indeed. Without armor, as Rayfe said, there's still always going to be someone who can see you in hiding, and who can hit you with an arrow or bolt. Simple as that. And having something between your skin, and that arrow that hit you is a good thing. I guess I could be wrong, and that it might be better to have nothing protecting you at all when you take an arrow in the face causing you to die instantly, but.. that sounds rather silly.


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I'd rather wear armor than no armor. Personally the lose of 10 or so stealth ranks with my set of leathers compared to the damage I would receive not wearing them justified them (atleast to me). Per the stealth hinderances, I havnt noticed it be as bad as 20 ranks, but I guess some of the much more hindering leathers like ironbarks or combats might get way up there. From what tests I have seen the chain penalty is pretty hefty (although, rightfully so. To quote Royce, -chink chink-).


~~From Hell

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I get all my armor reqs by dancing with crap that teaches me evasion. I have garbage multi op and garbage parry (working on that) but my evasion and leather are decent. If you can't get armor ranks, that means you aren't getting: parry, shield, evasion, multi op or parry, as far as I know. And that means that you are a wussmaster and need to get them defenses up! It's all well and good if ya want to shoot things or backstab things, but frankly if that is ALL that you do you will be king pansy and be jacktified in one hit by Joe Tog the 12th circle barbarian with an uber log.