I dunno why...but this bit thing is just not clicking in my brain...as long as I can still circle on what I like to circle on grin


The mind behind Jostak

I have the power to take everything from you, including your life.

what's lost can be found, what's locked can be opened, what's your's can be mine

Here Jostak. Ill take a crack at it for you.

Its a Hybrid system:
o-A-o one aspect is ranks per circle as you know it
o-B-o Second aspect is related to like AD&D were a player needs x number of exp points to level.

Now to use made up examples just in survival set:
A thief may need per circle <o-A-o>
2.5 ranks hide
2.5 ranks stalk
2.5 ranks steal
2.5 ranks locks
2.5 ranks disarm

ALSO A thief may need per circle <o-B-o>
800 bits survival circle 2
1600 bits survival circle 3
2700 bits survival circle 4
4000 bits survival circle 5
9000 bits survival circle 6

Were if you added up all the 2.5's and broke them down into bits they would not equal the part of <o-B-o> the extra part is your flexibility part. It is the part you can fill with bits from any survival skill.

And as Natala said each rank is worth more bits.
Even in say escaping rank number 5 may be worth 200 and to get it to 6 take 50 bits and thus rank 6 be worth 250. See how it works small. Now say still in escape rank 300 is worth 95,000 bits and to get it to 301 it is 950 bits.

Now if you can put all that in your pipe and smoke it we got somewhere.


I <3 it

<<sweet so we're getting a exp to circle thing?! Huzzah
~Apprentice to Damaris

Somewhat, Key word was Hybrid

A min rank per circle + a exp to circle overall within a skillset.

Same will happen in Lore and weapons and armor.

Only drawback I see for us as a thief is as I understand it you can have 600 ranks of magic and say 2,000,000 bits but none of it will or can count to a thing. Since only bits from Survival can bolster survival. ETC.



I <3 it

I can't belive I'm doing this, but I agree with the ranger on this...

> A min rank per circle + a exp to circle overall within a skillset.

If they have it were I end up getting the min rank per circle wile working towards the overall rank then thats fine.

~Apprentice to Damaris

< You clamp your fangs on a ship's rat's neck repeatedly gnashing it with heavy bites that rips away the adams apple and exposes the larynx.
You bellow a victorious howl that grows louder as it rips from your larynx.

the whole point of the new system is to prevent backtraining, so they better not put a hard stealing req higher then the one we already have, cause its not one of my 8


Don't fear the dark, fear what hides in it.

for 26th:
52 mechanical lore
42 lore #2
26 lore #3 and #4

Not sure if instruments count, I don't think so though.
Go to
http://krinahd.taffeisjournal.com/ThiefCalc.html
for reqs.

-V.R.

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>give salesgirl 15 lirums
The salesgirl gives you a funny look. "This lirum is worth more than 15 lirums!"

<<Not sure if instruments count, I don't think so though.
Go to

yes the silly instyrments count. It is possible to have lore #2, #3 and #4 all be insturments or singing. pretty silly but true.

Mech has its own slot:
But: Appraisal, Scholarship, Teaching, all musics can fill remainder.

the big question is DOES ANIMAL LORE COUNT for us. That is one I never saw a answer to but it's not that important really if it does not for right now.

"I don*'*t give a rats butt about your empirical evidence, Mr. Sunshine"
Mia

>>yes the silly instyrments count.

Ah, I didn't think so because they don't count for our lore average.


-V.R.

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>give salesgirl 15 lirums
The salesgirl gives you a funny look. "This lirum is worth more than 15 lirums!"

This was mentioned in passing back over in the Responses to GMs and I became curious. Why do we have such low weapon reqs? Using Olywdds (which I hope is accurate), I found this:

For Circle 35
Guild	Weapon 1	Weapon 2
Moon Mage	N/A	N/A
Empath	N/A	N/A
Thief	95	75
Bard	100	95
Cleric	105	N/A
War Mage	110	55
Ranger	115	55
Paladin	130	55

Now, if this is because we aren't considered a combat guild, then why don't we have the same weapon reqs as the bards, or vice versa, since they have guild leaders which will stop speaking to them if they train weapons while ignoring music?

While on this same note, does the load time from hiding ever go down? If it doesn't, it should, since I can understand the non-lowered RT for quiver loading, but for loading from hiding, we should eventually be able to get it down to the same time as in the open, being a stealth guild, if not a combat one.

A

Olwydd has a note on the calculator that his numbers are based on a GM post on the chart, but on the actual in game requirements on the calculator. I think it's 10 lower on the secondary.

But I think it kind of goes with the theory of having no disarm hard requirement, you'll pick it up while learning backstabbing, hiding, evasion, etc...

I've actually never chased circles. I just work my character like I feel like it, and then circle when I get the chance.

The only thing holding me back for around the next 8 circles, ironically, is my primary weapon req.

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"You know, cutting off the only means of escape constitutes a safety hazard. Probably doubly so since that's a circle of fire."
[ 8 Bit Theater ]

how can we learn animal lore?

Also from removing bloodworms.


~Ascot, et al.