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Well this thread has been thrown waaay off topic
~A voice from the shadows
You have no chance at hiding from a ship's rat.
Fear the rat!
VENARIUS1
HOLSCHAUERK
Re: Contract Assassin
02/07/2004 08:18 PM CST
"Hunting in UnderShard Spire area. Can lock all four fairly easily.
[/restate]
Use the skills and bonuses you can. You can still train effectively."
"Tam"
"you'll have to find a new critter to try and learn hiding off of... and if ya can't learn everything everywhere... oh well?
As for me I can still lock everything in adan'f so I'm enjoyin the hiding changes. :)"- "Rayfe"
You two don't understand the argument do you? Thieves should not have to deal with only being able to train hiding by sniping or doing stupid retreate unhide hide manuvers on 1% of the creatures in the realms that would teach there weapons at level and still move there hiding,
Thieves should not be made to be stuffed in a couple in town hunting areas just to be able to learn hiding, nore should we be forced to snipe to learn it ither, no other guild has such limitations as to where they can train skills. Even trading skill has three effective ways to train it.
You can come up with a couple examples im sure, but it doesn't hold water if you say barbs cant hunt x or y creature at level because of this reason or that reason because there will be 10 other things they could train on, for us and hiding its 1 thing we can learn on and 10 things we cant.
"A sabre in the head is worth two in the bush"
KROONERMANREVENGE
Re: Contract Assassin
07/04/2004 10:02 AM CDT
>Thieves should not be made to be stuffed in a couple in town hunting areas just to be able to learn hiding, nore should we be forced to snipe to learn it ither, no other guild has such limitations as to where they can train skills.
Not my fight, and I'm coming in at the end here, but that's wrong. Clerics are restricted in the use of a magic primary perk, TM, to only hunting undead. That's more restrictive than your hiding issue, cause the things which teach you hiding don't have god-like reflex/agility and horrible special attacks and ghetto hunting areas.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=schlep
Not my fight, and I'm coming in at the end here, but that's wrong. Clerics are restricted in the use of a magic primary perk, TM, to only hunting undead. That's more restrictive than your hiding issue, cause the things which teach you hiding don't have god-like reflex/agility and horrible special attacks and ghetto hunting areas.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=schlep
OLESH
Re: Contract Assassin
07/04/2004 12:25 PM CDT
TM is not a perk. TM is a skill whose sole purpose in using the skill is to train the skill to fulfill requirements. If TM were a perk, then ALL magical guilds would be using it for offensive spells, and the 'perk' would be that magic prime guilds train it faster. Instead, other guilds get contested spells that require absolutely 0 TM.
Just want to clear up that misconception.
"It's amazing how much of a deterrent a big 9mm can be to a group of mimes, even evil ones."
-- Sir Anthony Marks, "One Enchanted Evening"
Just want to clear up that misconception.
"It's amazing how much of a deterrent a big 9mm can be to a group of mimes, even evil ones."
-- Sir Anthony Marks, "One Enchanted Evening"
KROONERMANREVENGE
Re: Contract Assassin
07/05/2004 10:06 PM CDT
>TM is not a perk. TM is a skill whose sole purpose in using the skill is to train the skill to fulfill requirements. If TM were a perk, then ALL magical guilds would be using it for offensive spells, and the 'perk' would be that magic prime guilds train it faster. Instead, other guilds get contested spells that require absolutely 0 TM.
Still sounds like a perk to me. Non-prime guilds can train it, via runes and devices and classes. Which makes the free learning of TM a perk to magic primary guilds as a whole. Rather like backstab is a perk for the thieves guild, since no one else can use it (even if they learned a few ranks when it was teachable)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=schlep
Still sounds like a perk to me. Non-prime guilds can train it, via runes and devices and classes. Which makes the free learning of TM a perk to magic primary guilds as a whole. Rather like backstab is a perk for the thieves guild, since no one else can use it (even if they learned a few ranks when it was teachable)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=schlep
BENNETTJ13
Re: Contract Assassin
07/06/2004 12:15 AM CDT
what was the point of this thread again?
~Deuce~
~The Ever Cynical Elec
~TEH Zombie Ninja Monkey Pirate
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
~Deuce~
~The Ever Cynical Elec
~TEH Zombie Ninja Monkey Pirate
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
PERRYK2
Re: Contract Assassin
07/06/2004 04:13 AM CDT
The point of this post...is Contract Assassin.
D'uh Elec.
Shalrin (Ottavion)--
Don't understand the post, then you don't understand me.
__
>prod monk
It might be a bit safer if a monk was dead first.
>adv monk
You decide against that.
>boo
You let out a resounding "Boo!"
D'uh Elec.
Shalrin (Ottavion)--
Don't understand the post, then you don't understand me.
__
>prod monk
It might be a bit safer if a monk was dead first.
>adv monk
You decide against that.
>boo
You let out a resounding "Boo!"
BENNETTJ13
Re: Contract Assassin
07/06/2004 07:01 AM CDT
I forgot how well that fit with all the talking about mages.
~Deuce~
~The Ever Cynical Elec
~TEH Zombie Ninja Monkey Pirate
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
~Deuce~
~The Ever Cynical Elec
~TEH Zombie Ninja Monkey Pirate
"Even In Your Darkest, Most Hellish Nightmares You Are Safe. But In Reality, Night Always Falls, And There In The Shadows, I Wait."
HUMAN-TOG
Re: Contract Assassin
07/06/2004 10:13 AM CDT
not unless we plan on assassinating them all? ::flees::
~Dalkin~
If its got two legs and you hear a thud...don't panic...I just killed another one.
>>>>Agonar, apparently taking an uncharacteristic trip to the north, strolls by, winks at Marlena, giggles oddly to himself, and continues his journey onward.
~Dalkin~
If its got two legs and you hear a thud...don't panic...I just killed another one.
>>>>Agonar, apparently taking an uncharacteristic trip to the north, strolls by, winks at Marlena, giggles oddly to himself, and continues his journey onward.
