I'm wondering if a GM could please explain why we can't have a method of checking our confidence. I know it's been said to be OOC, yet I never learned why it'd be OOC. Barbarians have a way of checking their inner fire, rangers a way of checking their bonus, why can't we have at the very least a message that tells us after performing an action that increases or decreases our confidence, say so.

For example, after a succesful backstab, perhaps something along the lines of, You feel a bit steadier in your actions, or your legs seem little wobbly, for gain and loss respectively. And perhaps when you max it out, something along the lines of Your movements seem a little more fluid or my favorite, Heh, you're all out of bubble gum. And after maxing it out, you no longer receive messages, unless of course it goes down and you bring it up. And of course, the only way of checking it is to go out and see if you still improve or not. And the only time a message comes up about it outside of doing something that improves it, is when it runs out, You seem a little hesitant for a moment.

This seems entirely reasonable and if not, why would any method to check confidence be unreasonable.

A

This might have been stated before, but the confidence threads were long. Are there any game situations that will completely reset confidence, i.e. dying. (Sorry... it's hard to tell these things without a way to check it.) And if dying causes confidence to zero out, is there anything else, like getting arrested?

-Wighten

Albeit, my character has woefully trained charisma, 15, for his 20th circle, I'm finding it impossible to bump my confidence from its neutral state. Even an entire hunting trip filled with nothing but hiding/stalking/backstabbing of Rock Trolls failed to move it the slightest amount. Is there a problem in my methods of increasing confidence or rather is there a problem relating to the lack of charisma, or, even still, a combination of the two.

Since the rewrite I assume all of our main skills are on there (If disarm isn't on there then ignore the rest of this post) However I'm not seeing any gain from disarm.

I get out of death spirits (after hunting for an hour or two which used to get me to the top of confidence (which isn't a complaint at all, just an observation) and this is also with 27 charisma)and get this

>smirk birk
You smirk to yourself, the way only a stylish Thief can.
Your surroundings fit your talents perfectly.

Ok good, now my lockpicking is over 60 ranks above my disarm and disarm is too low to do these boxes normally so this boost helps out. With a couple khri popped up I'm able to do them.

However after a full pack of boxes (all identifying as either jumping off a cliff or snowball's chance in the desert) I check my confidence just for the hell of it.

>smirk birk
You smirk to yourself, the way only a stylish Thief can.
Your surroundings fit your talents perfectly.

I get the same message, now I realize I don't have the 30 suggested to fully utilize confidence (and is most likely why I'm not hitting top of my game in death spirits) but that seems kind of off. I mean, popping 10-12 boxes (or whatever a duffel bag can hold) that I shouldn't really be able to do (with base ranks) should put me up atleast to the next level right?



~Birkan Featherhands teh Drunken Prydaen

>I get the same message, now I realize I don't have the 30 suggested to fully utilize confidence (and is most likely why I'm not hitting top of my game in death spirits) but that seems kind of off. I mean, popping 10-12 boxes (or whatever a duffel bag can hold) that I shouldn't really be able to do (with base ranks) should put me up atleast to the next level right?

I'm not entirely sure how you identified the problem, though. I thought stylish thief is just below top of the game? You couldn't have gotten there either way with 27 charisma, no?

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Your mind hears Enef thinking, "I'm sure someone will be dying to buy that [Caelumia's ticket] from me in the future. It's a better investment than glaes."

If theoretically one were to have 99 in all the stats for Confidence (Charisma being more important than all the others combined) it might take over a day of time in game for it to drift down to the most it can drift down from max and it would come back from bad to normal extremely quick.

I don't really expect anyone to ever do this, but if you do the benefit is there.

-Z

Stealing (in shoplifting form) does move confidence. As Yamcer said Disarm and Locks will do so after Locks is rewritten.

-Z

So, I've been away for awhile, and it is possible i have just not seen the posting, but does dying automatically drop your confidence to trashed? otherwise, something weird happened to me when i lost connection and some swains jumped me.

It would be awesome if popping boxes and stealing were updated to provide a boost to confidence that was on par with ambushing/backstabbing. Is this something that will eventually be added?