Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 04:08 PM CST
Why does everyone seem to think that it's based more on foraging than skinning? I don't know, could be me, but since Lirisa was of the hunter type, I would be more likely to believe it'd be based on more hunting'ish skills. My guess is scouting, skinning, and bow.


~Van
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 04:34 PM CST
Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Bandit, Grifter, Looter, Scoundrel, Fence, Criminal, Hoodlum, Vagrant, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Purloiner, Fog, Ghost, Smoke, Spectre, Mist, Phantom
Hiding: 355 01% clear
Lockpicking: 55 43% clear
Disarm Traps: 57 08% clear
Stalking: 343 33% clear
Stealing: 116 28% clear
phantom definetly isn't 100 in locks and disarm

The Assassin in Plat

Those who live by the blade die by those who don't
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 04:36 PM CST
oh yeah and 27 charisma

The Assassin in Plat


Those who live by the blade die by those who don't
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 05:03 PM CST
I didn't realize there was a Follower and Disciple. I'd be happy with either one, though it sounds like Follower might be easier ::cough:: to get. Considering HOL boosts skinning, I'd have to agree it makes sense if it was based more on skinning.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 06:38 PM CST
>Why does everyone seem to think that it's based more on foraging than skinning?

I could see it being scouting/skinning, with the scouting being the key I'm missing. 650 bow/skinning and I don't have it, I've gotta think I have enough of those, and it's something else I'm missing.

-Vision et al



Also, I can shoot bees.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/05/2007 09:00 PM CST
dunno, i have phantom criminal title with my thief but not with any of my other characters either in prime or TF.



"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 01:38 AM CST
here are Mvorn's criminal titles while we're at it..

The following titles of the Criminal category are available to you:

Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Bandit, Grifter, Looter, Burglar, Scoundrel, Larcenist, Fence, Criminal, Highwayman, Con Artist, Outlaw, Bootlegger, Delinquent, Vagrant, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Purloiner, Robber, Fog, Ghost, Smoke, Libertine, Elusive, Rumor, Spectre, Mist, Phantom, Rook, Vapor

curious what Rumor requires, kind of an interesting one
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 07:28 AM CST
>>oh yeah and 27 charisma

Well since we've figured out its not pick, disarm, stealing, hiding or stalking. My charisma is only at 20 so that might be it. Its probably a hiding/stalking req with a certain level of charisma. My other stats are all pretty high so I doubt those would factor in. I should circle today or tomorrow so I can use my tdps to boost my charisma and test it.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 08:14 AM CST
<<Well since we've figured out its not pick, disarm, stealing, hiding or stalking. My charisma is only at 20 so that might be it. Its probably a hiding/stalking req with a certain level of charisma. My other stats are all pretty high so I doubt those would factor in. I should circle today or tomorrow so I can use my tdps to boost my charisma and test it.

My charisma's just 20 as well, so I don't think that's it.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 08:29 AM CST
>>My charisma's just 20 as well, so I don't think that's it.

Well thats a little frustrating. My hiding and stalking are nearly 400 now. My escaping is at 62 ranks. Disarm and Lockpick are at 59 and stealing is at 51. What other criminal skills do we have that would give us access to those titles? I guess I'm just not meant to be a ghost!
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 09:39 AM CST

Ghost, Smoke, Spectre, Mist, Phantom

Stealing: 37
Escaping: 74
Stalking: 196
Hiding: 215
Disarm Traps: 116
Lockpicking: 101

Charisma : 25
Reflex : 30
Agility : 30

This one has some of these. I'm not sure what earned them though.

_____
Mists and Magic, Ocean Breezes, Deep Rivers Under the Sea, Trails Between the Stars: Where nothing is as it seems.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 09:58 AM CST
Just to restate:

Ghost, Smoke, Spectre, Mist, Phantom

Stealing: 25
Escaping: 28
Stalking: 227
Hiding: 240
Disarm: 150
Lockpicking: 132

Charisma: 16
Reflex: 26
Agility: 30

Seems to me it looks like disarm and/or lockpicking.


Range Master Dragamar, Recluse of Aesry Sulaenis'a
Brother Urio, Follower of Urrem'tier
Cadet Ltorilu, Up and Coming Paladin
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 10:08 AM CST
>Seems to me it looks like disarm and/or lockpicking.

That would make sense as the titles were designed with thieves in mind, even though disarm has little to do with being a ghost.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 10:21 AM CST
>>Ghost, Mist

I have those with 35 lockpicking/disarming

195 hiding/170 stalking

~Arwinia

Your mind hears Netherlich thinking "Actually i was asking to buy....movin up to 50Pk for Limb Disruption and 40 for Blackfire."
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 10:35 AM CST
my <prime> trader has Fog, Ghost
lockpick 66
hiding 137
stalking 112
stealing 103
escaping 82
disarm 67
charisma: 40






"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 10:36 AM CST


<<disarm has little to do with being a ghost>>
training disarm can make you a ghost soon enough :-(



"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 11:18 AM CST
>training disarm can make you a ghost soon enough

True enough.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 03:49 PM CST
Trader with Fog:

The following titles of the Criminal category are available to you:

Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Swindler, Rogue, Scammer, Thief, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Fog

SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Evasion: 43 89% clear Climbing: 84 72% thoughtful
Perception: 109 91% thoughtful Hiding: 58 83% clear
Lockpicking: 13 37% clear Disarm Traps: 13 30% clear
Stalking: 41 99% clear Stealing: 72 63% clear
First Aid: 29 37% clear Foraging: 31 16% clear
Escaping: 5 85% clear Skinning: 24 21% clear
Swimming: 57 80% thoughtful


Charisma : 35

-=Dirge. We've been kicking ash for centuries!=-
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/06/2007 07:35 PM CST
<<That would make sense as the titles were designed with thieves in mind, even though disarm has little to do with being a ghost.>>

I agree. So I'd be willing to believe skills people generally consider thief skills will be attrached to many of these, and should not be so easily dismissed.


~Van
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 01:56 AM CST
The title "Rumor" requires an active warrant
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 04:49 AM CST
I do not have fog, and have more hiding, stalking and escaping than the Dirge Chairman. I've got less stealing.


Gladiator Maulem~

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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 05:13 AM CST
I think ghost is a hiding/stalking/stealing/lockpick req. Basically getting in and out of things you shouldnt without being noticed.


Farewell, remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil, be thou my good.
~Paradise Lost (bk. IX, l. 171)
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 06:00 AM CST
Hope this helps anyone whos trying to figure out what these are based on.

The following titles of the Criminal category are available to you:

Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Sticky Fingers, Ghost, Smoke, Spectre

Perception: 181
Stalking: 143
Hiding: 167
Lockpicking: 122
Disarm Traps: 121
Stealing: 16
Escaping: 55


You wonder if the grimy bar of soap is the home of an evil spirit.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 07:10 AM CST
>I do not have fog, and have more hiding, stalking and escaping than the Dirge Chairman. I've got less stealing.

How's your charisma?
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 07:51 AM CST
<<I think ghost is a hiding/stalking/stealing/lockpick req. Basically getting in and out of things you shouldnt without being noticed.

If it uses stealing it is 25 or less.

I do think fog is stealing though. My guess is 50, and then other requirements also.




Range Master Dragamar, Recluse of Aesry Sulaenis'a
Brother Urio, Follower of Urrem'tier
Cadet Ltorilu, Up and Coming Paladin
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:12 AM CST
Anyone think that its possibly a combination of the three? Having Lockpicking/Disarm/Stealing equaling a total of 200? I'm only at a combined total of about 180 and some of the others that definitely have the titles are in the 200 range.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:32 AM CST
Here are my criminal titles...

The following titles of the Criminal category are available to you:

Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Vagrant, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Purloiner, Fog, Ghost, Smoke, Spectre

Hiding: 171
Stalking: 153
Escaping: 50
Stealing: 63
Disarm: 128
Lockpicking: 119

Calissa's player
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:38 AM CST
Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Bandit, Grifter, Looter, Burglar, Scoundrel, Larcenist, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Purloiner, Robber, Fog, Ghost, Smoke, Spectre, Mist, Phantom

Those are mine


Arctuniol

In an open world who needs Windows or Gates.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:42 AM CST
Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Delinquent, Vagrant, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Ghost, Smoke, Spectre, Mist, Phantom, Vapor, Phantasm

558 hiding
436 stalking
93 disarm
46 lockpicking
50 stealing



Da Madd Webba


How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sportin' with puppies?

You might as well pay attention since your behind can't afford free speech

I'm like a pee stained mattress, don't sleep on me!
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:47 AM CST
Now I'm wondering why I have Vagrant and Arct doesn't, I'm sure his skills are a bit higher than mine...I'm pretty sure I have an active warrant now though.

Calissa's player
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 09:54 AM CST
Couldn't tell you, not sure what you have in skill. I don't have that weird one, but mine are below. I will chalk it up to another Arctuniol Bug as I have grown to know them over the years.

Hiding: 352
Stalking: 327
Disarm Traps: 185
Lockpicking: 109
Stealing: 83

Arctuniol

In an open world who needs Windows or Gates.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 10:51 AM CST
If your locks are 109 then I got 10 ranks on you there but you got me in everything else...I'm not sure how that ties in with Vagrant. I just got myself arrested to clear my warrants so that's not it.

I wonder if you lose the title after you gain a certain amount of skill...but then why just that one?

Calissa's player
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 10:55 AM CST
Like I said, I am chalking it up to another Arctuniol Bug, long list of bugs including unable to track me among other problems and issues my character has had over the years.


Arctuniol

In an open world who needs Windows or Gates.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 11:30 AM CST

okay, these are my empath <in prime>:
Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Sticky Fingers, Acquirer, Opportunist, Swindler, Fog

stealing 60
lockpicking 31
disarm 38
stalking 51
hiding 75
escaping 82








"Word on the street is, ya been lookin' out for the best interests of the Guild."
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 11:42 AM CST
I think our problem is that these titles aren't in TF yet.

Pick-Snapper, Yegg, Thug, Footpad, Cutpurse, Pickpocket, Kleptomaniac, Pilferer, Crook, Swindler, Rogue, Prowler, Scammer, Shoplifter, Thief, Grifter, Looter, Burglar, Scoundrel, Larcenist, Fence, Criminal

Hiding: 317
Stalking: 240
Stealing: 107
Disarm Traps: 136
Lockpicking: 178
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 11:54 AM CST
>>I think our problem is that these titles aren't in TF yet.

Weren't they supposed to be in TF a couple of weeks ago?
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 01:51 PM CST
<<I think our problem is that these titles aren't in TF yet.>>

I think the problem is that peoples guesswork hasn't nailed out a conclusion yet. On ranks needed, skills, or stats. Tack on things like active warrants etc. That's alot of variables.


~Van
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 01:53 PM CST
Yes, but no one I talked to in TF has the title.
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 01:56 PM CST
<<Yes, but no one I talked to in TF has the title.>>

Which title are we looking for? I guess I lost track, since most people were just comparing which criminal ones they had.


~Van
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Re: Title Reqs (warning: spoilers) 02/07/2007 01:57 PM CST
Ghost was the main one, another is fog.
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