Hey there,

I'm sorry to say, but don't count on any new titles coming out for Rangers for awhile. Rangers now have about 206 titles just for themselves, and they are number two on the list of Guilds with most titles. We are officially on the "No-more-titles-for-a-while list." (tm)


Cheers,

BrewMaster Paklin

SHOT DOWN.

No worries maybe they can be moved over to the "Titles-when-they-need-new-ones" list.


You wonder if the grimy bar of soap is the home of an evil spirit.

Having the second most titles is not a good reason to prevent us from getting titles to cover areas of our guild that have not been covered.

We're not asking for 20 more forest titles, we're asking for a couple desert ones.

>>Understandable. Feel free to keep collecting them and posting them here, however, as I said, I'm shifting attention to Traders, Empaths, Paladins, and Moon Mages now.

Bards and Clerics?

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How about some desert titles in the survival series then that would be available to all guilds to tide us over till this discrepency can be fixed?

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<<I've brought it up in the past and am bringing it up again, reasoning is pretty logical and straight forward.>>

Its already being discussed.

Solomon

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Sorry guys, Ranger's just have too much. We figure we'll cut back on you guys a while since you have so much.

Titles are just approving words and necessary requirements. It's not a skinning rewrite, or companion system.

Justifying the shift of resources in other directions was never used for us while everyone else had release after release and we decayed here complaining to nobody. I don't understand why we can't simple additional words (I really don't care about the titles, it's the idea of Ranger's being second-class to everyone else in the eyes of GM's for some reason) put in a list that people could care less about compared to actual guild systems.

Sorry Rangers, you can't have a desert title because Empath's only have 51 titles and you have more than that.

How about, "Sorry Warrior Mages, you have gotten _(I started making a list for the past 2 years, but it ended up being multiple paragraphs so I just didn't post it) recently, so we're gonna go help with Team Ranger for a while."

>>How about, "Sorry Warrior Mages, you have gotten _(I started making a list for the past 2 years, but it ended up being multiple paragraphs so I just didn't post it) recently, so we're gonna go help with Team Ranger for a while."

Because the GMs are volunteers and don't want to work on some guilds/systems. Just ask Jent what happens when you try to make a GM stop developing for what they like and focus on something they don't want to do.


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Im not trying to complain really. I had orginally stated that I thought of it more as a set of title that got left out. I would have thought that putting locale titles like forest, river, and mountian; would have included all of the terrian available in the realms.

Not to be GvG in any way, but as an example the war mages have very indivudal titles concering thier magics and what type of mage they are (earth, wind, and fire.snicker.etc, etc, etc.) I would think something like this would also apply to Rangers, being masters of the land and the various types of land available.

Also not to downgrade the new titles in anyway, but i think alot of them that were realeaed for Rangers are somewhat just alot of "survival" titles. Not really anything Id say is ranger only (leaf chaser, muleskinner, daisypicker, etc.)

On that note a way to shut me up for good is just to look at it and see if you agree with me and move the new titles that should be survival, over to survival. And than re-count the ranger titles and see if you can justify a few more for a rakash with no homeland who swims in sandpits for fun....and those other rangers too.

You wonder if the grimy bar of soap is the home of an evil spirit.

<<I had orginally stated that I thought of it more as a set of title that got left out. I would have thought that putting locale titles like forest, river, and mountian; would have included all of the terrian available in the realms.>>

I'm going by what Daethar said about Desert Titles.

There are always going to be questions and a difference of opinions as to what category a title belongs in. I imagine we could take 50-100 of the Ranger titles and easily move them into the Survival category since that would make perfect sense (given the nature of your guild...pardon the pun) and then yes, Rangers would definitely be short however many titles you'd like us to move. We could move 100 or more Warrior Mage titles into the Magic category and we could move 100 or more of the Barbarian titles into the Weapons category, too, and then everyone would be more even, but there would still be some guilds with as few as 50 titles and we'd still work on them before adding any new ones for those three guilds. If you consider NOT adding titles as "taking something away from Rangers", then I'm not sure I or anyone else can say anything to change your opinion about that, but we're not "taking" anything from you. You're just not getting as much as you want, just like other guilds haven't gotten as much as they want either.

However, as I said, at this time there are other guilds we're focusing on when it comes to titles. So while I, Daethar, Tarragon, and Paklin all encourage you to feel free to collect ideas and make suggestions for new titles, they're not going to be added until I'm done working on titles for Clerics, Bards, Moon Mages, Empaths, Paladins, and Traders. And even after that, I may decide that 200 titles is plenty, or I might decide that some DO need to be moved or adjusted. However, I can say that I'm also not going to make 5 versions of every Warrior Mage title out there so that someone can be a Fire Tempest, an Aether Tempest, a Water Tempest, an Electricity Tempest, an Earth Tempest, or an Air Tempest, either, just like we don't have (and won't have) Jungle Wardens, Steppe Wardens, Lush Valley Wardens, Rolling Hill Wardens, Barren Plain Wardens, Brackish Estuary Wardens, or Tropical Archipelago Wardens. Whether we have Desert Wardens or not remains to be seen.

Paklin, Tarragon, and Daethar will continue to work on Ranger stuff as they have been. My working on some other guild's titles isn't going to cause them to stop what they're doing.


Solomon

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Some people just like to complain no matter what. It would have been nice to see those Desert Ranger titles suggested more so before the release of the titles. I don't remember seeing many if any at all. Regardless though, the titles are appreciated by most of the guild.

Now can we get a list? :) or a partial list, or a small sample...

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>>I'm sorry to say, but don't count on any new titles coming out for Rangers for awhile. Rangers now have about 206 titles just for themselves, and they are number two on the list of Guilds with most titles. We are officially on the "No-more-titles-for-a-while list." (tm)

Thanks! Titles are cool and all but sound like a lot of red tape trying to get them approved. Rather see you all working on nature's pool and things!

Anyway, my take on titles is quality over quantity. Id rather not see a thousand more <environment type> <skill name> titles. If you really want to have a certain title, get a custom one or something.

Foxrhyn