Pondering where to next spend TDPs.
Strength : 56 Reflex : 70
Agility : 70 Charisma : 25
Discipline : 65 Wisdom : 57
Intelligence : 60 Stamina : 55
Currently hunting in apes, surviving well, can dance with 4 without getting battered.
All my weapons are high end steel so I already have the minimum RT on each.
I train all weapons, ranged and edge when i hunt at level and the rest when i backtrain for boxes.
Is charisma good for anything? Does a higher charicma increase the loot or the chances or getting scrolls/maps/etc?
Do any of our spells use charisma? from what i've read on elanthepedia they don't.
Not much for PvP, mostly i just hunt and train.
Also, while i think of it, I can cast BES at 20 but CS only at 15, that sound right to others?
BIGANDRED
BADGOPHER
Re: Stat question
08/08/2014 06:29 AM CDT
>Is charisma good for anything? Does a higher charicma increase the loot or the chances or getting scrolls/maps/etc?
No to both questions. It influences spirit health, and some of the vs. spell checks, but that's about it. You can't increase your loot odds in any form, it's static.
In general, just train up whatever's cheapest for you, now that you have a solid stat base to work from. I'd probably ignore charisma completely.
No to both questions. It influences spirit health, and some of the vs. spell checks, but that's about it. You can't increase your loot odds in any form, it's static.
In general, just train up whatever's cheapest for you, now that you have a solid stat base to work from. I'd probably ignore charisma completely.
MUMFORDA
Re: Stat question
08/09/2014 02:24 AM CDT
There was me thinking that Charisma was quite important for Bards? Doesn't it power all of our enchants/spells and abilities (screams, whistles, etc.)? Any chance a knowledgeable Bard could weigh in on this conversation?
I'm pleased I have that Safari potion if I have made a poor assumption.
Az
Azkaban UiNeill, Bard of Therengia, an Elf
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Azkaban
Singing for tips, since 312.
I'm pleased I have that Safari potion if I have made a poor assumption.
Az
Azkaban UiNeill, Bard of Therengia, an Elf
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Azkaban
Singing for tips, since 312.
GAMERGIRL151
Re: Stat question
08/09/2014 03:20 AM CDT
| Aether wolves | Charm vs Fort |
| Albreda's Balm | Charm vs Will |
| Glythtide's Joy | Charm vs Will |
| Misdirection | Charm vs Will |
| Demrris' Resolve | Mind vs Will |
| Maelstrom | Magic vs Reflex |
>There was me thinking that Charisma was quite important for Bards?
https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Contested_spells
The majority of these bard spells are charm, which uses Charisma, Discipline, and Intelligence or and a few are Mind which uses Intelligence, Discipline, Wisdom. If you use a lot of those charm spells, charisma is nice to have. Bard's bluff also uses charisma.
>Is charisma good for anything?
In regards to OP, Rangers have no charm spells, so charisma is something you can rather safely neglect.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
DRFREAK3
Re: Stat question
08/09/2014 11:49 PM CDT
I thought this was a ranger folder? Why are we discussing Bards?
Charisma for a ranger is basically useless except for contested spell checks (So you would raise charimsa to defend against spells).
It also helps you PLEAD INNOCENT when arrested, and bargaining with NPC merchants.
So if you don't pvp and don't commit crimes, a ranger doesn't really need it.
Charisma for a ranger is basically useless except for contested spell checks (So you would raise charimsa to defend against spells).
It also helps you PLEAD INNOCENT when arrested, and bargaining with NPC merchants.
So if you don't pvp and don't commit crimes, a ranger doesn't really need it.
GNIKOLEYCHUK
Re: Stat question
08/10/2014 11:30 AM CDT
So, I just went through a ton of posts and updated the Elanthipedia page((https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Charisma_(stat))). For Rangers, charisma:
*Extends spirit health and therefore the time before auto-depart after death
*Charisma will work to grant a modest increase to the multi opponent penalty a player poses against a foe. (I couldn't find a reference to support this)
*Reduces amount of fines from being arrested
*Increases the odds of evading the guards when a warrant has been arrested.
*Reduces the round time for plead release attempts from the stocks
*Increases the chance of successfully accusing someone of Necromancy or evading a false accusation of Necromancy
*The more charisma your students have, the more teaching experience you will earn
*The more charisma your teacher has, the faster you will learn the skill you are trying to learn
*The more charisma you have, the more scholarship you will learn as a teacher or student.
*Reduces prices in shops with shopkeepers that use the barter system.
*Improves performances.
Of all the guilds it seems that Rangers, along with Necromancers have the least use for Charisma.
*Extends spirit health and therefore the time before auto-depart after death
*Charisma will work to grant a modest increase to the multi opponent penalty a player poses against a foe. (I couldn't find a reference to support this)
*Reduces amount of fines from being arrested
*Increases the odds of evading the guards when a warrant has been arrested.
*Reduces the round time for plead release attempts from the stocks
*Increases the chance of successfully accusing someone of Necromancy or evading a false accusation of Necromancy
*The more charisma your students have, the more teaching experience you will earn
*The more charisma your teacher has, the faster you will learn the skill you are trying to learn
*The more charisma you have, the more scholarship you will learn as a teacher or student.
*Reduces prices in shops with shopkeepers that use the barter system.
*Improves performances.
Of all the guilds it seems that Rangers, along with Necromancers have the least use for Charisma.
ABSOLON
Re: Stat question
08/10/2014 12:38 PM CDT
<<*Extends spirit health and therefore the time before auto-depart after death
This also increases the available pool of spirit health for beseeches, although I think even with low amounts of charisma Rangers have more than enough for their needs anyway.
<<*Charisma will work to grant a modest increase to the multi opponent penalty a player poses against a foe. (I couldn't find a reference to support this)
This was definitely a thing pre-3.0. I don't know if it exists in 3.0 currently, although I can't think of anything that would have necessitated changing it. It rarely comes into play at any rate.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
This also increases the available pool of spirit health for beseeches, although I think even with low amounts of charisma Rangers have more than enough for their needs anyway.
<<*Charisma will work to grant a modest increase to the multi opponent penalty a player poses against a foe. (I couldn't find a reference to support this)
This was definitely a thing pre-3.0. I don't know if it exists in 3.0 currently, although I can't think of anything that would have necessitated changing it. It rarely comes into play at any rate.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
BADGOPHER
Re: Stat question
08/10/2014 05:37 PM CDT
What exactly does 'improves performances' mean?
I didn't think anyone but bards could access the perform verb?
I didn't think anyone but bards could access the perform verb?
ABSOLON
Re: Stat question
08/10/2014 06:29 PM CDT
<<What exactly does 'improves performances' mean?
<<I didn't think anyone but bards could access the perform verb?
It simply means you get a bonus when using PLAY/HUM so that a given song and mood will be easier.
A character with higher charisma as another character will play instruments and hum better than another character with everything else equal.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
<<I didn't think anyone but bards could access the perform verb?
It simply means you get a bonus when using PLAY/HUM so that a given song and mood will be easier.
A character with higher charisma as another character will play instruments and hum better than another character with everything else equal.
Elanthipedia - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
DRFREAK3
Re: Stat question
08/10/2014 11:37 PM CDT
Well, the OP was originally asking how the stats should be trained.
Somehow it turned into a charisma discussion. And it also turned into a discussion about how it is useful for bards.
Yes, charisma has uses. But is it vital for a ranger? The answer is no. (I've heard it may come into play with companions, etc...but we know how that goes)
You can get by with minimal charisma...unless you PVP heavily. The OP said pvp was not a factor.
Somehow it turned into a charisma discussion. And it also turned into a discussion about how it is useful for bards.
Yes, charisma has uses. But is it vital for a ranger? The answer is no. (I've heard it may come into play with companions, etc...but we know how that goes)
You can get by with minimal charisma...unless you PVP heavily. The OP said pvp was not a factor.
