Zinaca, this was all discussed at great length in the past. I suggest you read back in the ranger folders for more information.

I also don't see how minor damage adds much to either spell. It would create consent issues though, making them less useful in prime.

Right now break branch is a great spell. You can choose to stun or knock unconscious, assuming you can win the contest. That's amazing versatility for a single spell. Personally I think the "guaranteed unconsciousness if the target is stunned" aspect of the new break branch is OP, but it seems like it is here to stay.

HB is also better now for backtraining weapons. Before, you would kill creatures with poison if you outclassed them, making the spell frustrating to use when backtraining. And the re-webbing? Very cool.

Best nerf ever.

>>Personally I think the "guaranteed unconsciousness if the target is stunned" aspect of the new break branch is OP, but it seems like it is here to stay.<<


- Mazrian

>I also think, in light of this, Mind Blast is horrendously overpowered, given that it's guaranteed unconsciousness on the first cast (as opposed to the second cast) versus everything except BMR at high levels.

I think you don't know what you're talking about. There's a bunch of people in TF I can stun, but NEVER sleep with mental blast. Neither the first cast nor subsequent casts guarantee anything. It used to be that the second cast was almost certain to result in unconsciousness if the target was stunned, but it was changed to almost never make a difference, at least for me.

I don't think anyone should get an unconsciousness effect with no contested skills or stats.