Gracias! :D


Teesha

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RandomDRDude: she goes through men like I go through toilet paper
GrlyGrl19: And your ass is probably the cleaner of the two afterwards.

Try breaking the tobacco.

Umatos, Player of

So in my effort to master all of the smoke images to a teaching level, I've come to a few realizations.

1) It takes a LOOONG time
2) It can get expensive, though it really isn't THAT bad in the long run
3) It takes a lot to get from Master to Master*
4) Besides the warm fuzzies, and the few people who want to learn to smoke... ya don't get much from it.
5) It is hard to tell if there is a difference in learning between cigars and tobacco.
6) It'd be really nice if there was a message that let you know you'd gotten better, instead of typing in smoke image after every RT is over.

I've gotten a tiny bit of mech lore out of the deal so far (I've learned 11 of the images to Master* so far), but aside from that, there has been zero skill gain through this process. Thankfully, being a bard, I'm able to sing an enchante while I'm doing it, so it isn't a total waste time-wise.

That said... I'll get into a few assumptions based on my past few mastered images.

Troll image and using sungrown cigars:
6 cigars to reach Master level from Streamer (25-27 inhales each)
11 cigars to reach Master* level from Master

Pixie image and using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer (25 inhales each, this didn't seem to vary like cigars)
8 tobacco to reach Master* level from Master

Horse image using mint and vanilla tobacco:
6 tobacco to reach Master level from Streamer

Using the average (rounded up to 16), and assuming Streamer level at all 19 images, that gives us the following numbers:

304 cigars to reach Master* in all
60800 copper spent at 2 silver each
7600 inhales (assuming 25 each cigar)
38000 seconds (assuming 5 second RT for each exhale, no wasted time, no time for lighting)

Time to Master* all 19 images: 10 hours 33 minutes 20 seconds

And ya can't do much during that time, since it is all spent in RT.

Some background stats that MIGHT have some effect on this, but I have no clue

Circle 11
Reflex : 12
Agility : 18
Wisdom : 18
Intelligence : 12

Mechanical Lore: 27
Perception: 16

Has anyone out there done any more testing on this? Wondering if any of my assumed calculations are in the ballpark.

Conclusion: I better get a nice title out of this! Where's my Blacklung?

Danner

Is there someplace all the tobacco and cigars people find can be dumped. I usually just leave that stuff for the ground on the janitor. Is there something in Arthe Dale or the halfling section in Riverhaven that can be used like the charity chest in the cleric guild? Or maybe tobacco could be foraged and dried as part of the alchemy system.


flip
Flip what?

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My website of cleric info: http://hometown.aol.com/kaliradr/myhomepage/profile.html

What I'd like is a tobacco plant that I can put outside my hummock in Arthe, and forage tobacco a couple times a day, which can then be dried. Heck, go even further and let me have a field that I can harvest! Allow the flavor/smell to vary so that we can, through trial and error, customize it how we want. I can see myself selling kegs of the stuff (Danner's Rum-basted Top Choice!) off Trader tables now.

Perhaps I have lofty dreams, but I'll be getting my bagpipes soon, and I'll need something new to badger GMs about for years.

Now get back on topic! :p

Danner

That's not a bad idea really. While 6-7 plat isn't THAT much money, it will definitely take some determination to stick with it if you're a young olvi and have limited funds.

As far as which taverns and bars... for Crossing, how about the Half-Pint? Seems fitting enough. Unless you feel like making the trek out to Arthe and dumping it in the inn there.

The money/time input vs. output seems a bit skewed to me, since I doubt I'll find anyone who wants to pay me money to learn to smoke (since it does nothing for you besides add scroll, ignoring the RP use of course). Of course, I do have a smoking patron at this time who is buying me all my cigars and tobacco, since she wants me to teach her all the images. I don't think she realizes how much she's been spending <grin>.

Danner

Aren't all you olvi thieves anyway? ;)

More seriously, try to find a thief to help you out if the expense is a problem. Black market tobacco works great.

Yea, just pass it to someone else first, then get it to Danner.


~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.

Danner, were you inhaling, exhaling, inhaling, exhaling over and over with no pause or were you waiting a touch inbetween each? There is a timer on each image, though I've not the slightest how long it is, due to there not being any way to determine if your counter has gone up.

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-Fuquois-

The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.

>I believe we talked about this in our meeting last month.

Tobbacco is the leading cause of memory loss. If anyone DARES to blame it on RL old age, you're going down! hehe


~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.

>Didn't know there was a timer... interesting. Wonder if I had some wasted puffs.

I think you definately wasted a good amount of puffs. Try another image with tobacco and pause 60 seconds between each exhalation.

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-Fuquois-

The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.

What I did all those ages ago when it was released was to cycle through all of my images. As there were 22 available to me, generally the timer was expired on each specific image before I got back to it.

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-Fuquois-

The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall.

I still maintain that Arthe is an abomination without any tarts being sold there.

I so love my tart making pouch! I'm never without a tart now. Well, unless I eat all the tarts in my pouch before it's willing to make me new ones. Then I have to make sure I have some on standby.


~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.

Why worry about tarts being sold in Arthe Dale, when you can get all the free tarts you want at the Arthe Hollow Inn?

A bouncing little olvi!


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

It's under lock and key!


~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.

Only bribe I'm taking would be the ruby-crusted pipe from the Ice Festival sold in The Kindred Spirit. hehe


~Eoworfinia~
A snow goblin reaches down and gently pets your corpse, then quickly looks about to make sure no one noticed.

I am a Gnome. How well can I learn the images? Can I learn them better than adequite(sp)? And on another note. Is there anyone on Ratha that is willing to teach me another smoking image or two?

Nikor

I also have all the smoking images mastered so if you ever see me wondering around i will be mroe then happy yo teach.

IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL IMAGE - SKILL

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deer - master* dragon - master* rabbit - master* pixie - master* kitten - master*
troll - master* horse - master* paladin - master* whip - master* cloak - master*
stump - master* fleas - master* daisies - master* unicorn - master* rams - master*
bandit - master* ship - master* grave - master* fish - master* web - master*
phoenix - master* * = Teachable Image


~Player of
Miir

I'm also generally around on Ratha, or give Kraggur a shout and he can dig me out of the local bakery *wanders off in search of tarts*

~Vinalf