Heyo,

I have a young paladin I'm just starting to put through his paces, and found an oddity with circle requirements. It seems that every reference I can find claims that for circles 1-10 one only needs 1 rank per circle in each of 4 highest survivals. That said, I'm getting this message from Verika:

Verika explains, "Well Haark, you need some work on your general survival skills before you can advance to level 3."

"It is not that you are lacking in any one skill, just that you are not experienced enough overall."

That's with the following skills:

SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Evasion: 15 91% thoughtful Climbing: 13 23% perplexed
Perception: 0 29% clear Hiding: 15 99% concentrating
Stalking: 15 02% learning First Aid: 7 92% clear
Foraging: 0 29% clear Escaping: 2 97% learning
Skinning: 8 62% learning Swimming: 12 10% perplexing

Survival Average: 5 (Total: 57 in 10 included skills)

Does this make sense to anyone?

Thanks in advance,
Haark

>IIRC, hiding and stalking don't count for Paladins.

They don't. You can tell by EXP S... It ignores hiding and stalking in the average. Or at one time it did.