Does this also mean it now defaults to whomever/whatever you're facing when you cast it? As opposed to having to specify?
Thanks,
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
SULLIVANS3
FBC
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 01:51 PM CST
>>Does this also mean it now defaults to whomever/whatever you're facing when you cast it? As opposed to having to specify?
As an offensive spell it should, as long as it's a creature anyway.
As an offensive spell it should, as long as it's a creature anyway.
SULLIVANS3
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 01:53 PM CST
For the record, it defaulted (love that!)
But:
You gesture at XXX.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You feel a deep pain in your soul for initiating the attack against XXX. This is dishonorable!
You stare at XXX, attempting to stop him in his tracks with your gaze, but fail.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
But:
You gesture at XXX.
The mana you were holding contributes to the spell.
You feel a deep pain in your soul for initiating the attack against XXX. This is dishonorable!
You stare at XXX, attempting to stop him in his tracks with your gaze, but fail.
Roundtime: 3 seconds
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
BEYONDDISBELIEF
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:00 PM CST
>This is dishonorable!
+5 points for breaking Armifer's code withint he hour!
+5 points for breaking Armifer's code withint he hour!
SULLIVANS3
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:03 PM CST
I aim to please :D
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
IAMTHEWALRUS
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:06 PM CST
Same thing just happened to me, but I assumed it was because I halted my wife...
>cas taa
You gesture at Taare.
You feel a deep pain in your soul for initiating the attack against Taare. This is dishonorable!
You stare intently at Taare, stopping her in her tracks with your gaze.
Roundtime: 1 seconds
>
Taare whispers, "WTB: Be'Ort Rose"
- Anuind
>cas taa
You gesture at Taare.
You feel a deep pain in your soul for initiating the attack against Taare. This is dishonorable!
You stare intently at Taare, stopping her in her tracks with your gaze.
Roundtime: 1 seconds
>
Taare whispers, "WTB: Be'Ort Rose"
- Anuind
RUSSEASBY
DR-ARMIFER
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:29 PM CST
>>+5 points for breaking Armifer's code withint he hour!
I hate Paladin code a lot.
Give me a few minutes, I'll either have this fixed or revert it.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
I hate Paladin code a lot.
Give me a few minutes, I'll either have this fixed or revert it.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
DR-ARMIFER
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:35 PM CST
The Offensive change has been reverted for now. The messaging fix is still live.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
BEYONDDISBELIEF
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 02:59 PM CST
>I hate Paladin code a lot.
You know the only solution is the scrap the Paladin guild! :D
That, or rewrite it whole, yeah! You know you love rewriting!
You know the only solution is the scrap the Paladin guild! :D
That, or rewrite it whole, yeah! You know you love rewriting!
PRAXIS
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 03:37 PM CST
<<You know the only solution is the scrap the Paladin guild! :D
I would be quite content as an armor prime thief.
< You fire an ironwood quadrello at a baby forest gryphon. A baby forest gryphon fails to dodge. The quadrello lands a devastating hit that mashes the gryphon's right eye to pulp with a direct smash to the face, knocking it completely senseless.
I would be quite content as an armor prime thief.
< You fire an ironwood quadrello at a baby forest gryphon. A baby forest gryphon fails to dodge. The quadrello lands a devastating hit that mashes the gryphon's right eye to pulp with a direct smash to the face, knocking it completely senseless.
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 05:47 PM CST
>> The Offensive change has been reverted for now. The messaging fix is still live.
Armifer, can you please justify the change from beneficial spell to offensive spell?
I swear, whenever I used it on someone, it was for their own good!
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
Armifer, can you please justify the change from beneficial spell to offensive spell?
I swear, whenever I used it on someone, it was for their own good!
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
SULLIVANS3
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 05:51 PM CST
Obviously not Armifer, but I think one of the reasons was specifically so it would default to the target you are facing when cast. I remember it coming up in a thread sometime in the past couple of months that it should default, but wasn't. The reason it wasn't was that it wasn't technically an 'offensive' spell.
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
DR-ARMIFER
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 06:47 PM CST
>>Armifer, can you please justify the change from beneficial spell to offensive spell?
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 06:52 PM CST
>>I can't tell if you're joking or not.
Armifer, can you please justify the change from beneficial spell to offensive spell?
I know whenever I cast it at someone, it's for their own "benefit" :D
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
Armifer, can you please justify the change from beneficial spell to offensive spell?
I know whenever I cast it at someone, it's for their own "benefit" :D
"Limited in nature yet infinite in desire - men are like fallen gods."
- Alphonse de Lamartine
DR-ARMIFER
Re: Halt Update
03/11/2010 06:53 PM CST
Oh, okay.
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas
THOMASWIZ
Re: Halt Update
03/12/2010 07:41 AM CST
I can not read any of Armifer's posts but read all of the responses. Am I solo on this?
Death Dealer Adakin of Prime
WorldsBestMagic Kastr of TF
"The Key To Immortality Is Living A Life Worth Remembering."
"Killing Time Murders Opportunities."
Death Dealer Adakin of Prime
WorldsBestMagic Kastr of TF
"The Key To Immortality Is Living A Life Worth Remembering."
"Killing Time Murders Opportunities."
IDONS-BUDDY
Re: Halt Update
03/12/2010 07:42 AM CST
Maybe you accidentally ignored his account.
Rev. Reene
"Oh, I'm not omniscient -- but I know a lot."
- Mephistopheles, Faust
Rev. Reene
"Oh, I'm not omniscient -- but I know a lot."
- Mephistopheles, Faust
FBC
Re: Halt Update
03/12/2010 07:45 AM CST
>>I can not read any of Armifer's posts but read all of the responses. Am I solo on this?
YOU FAIL.
Also what Reene said.
YOU FAIL.
Also what Reene said.
THOMASWIZ
Re: Halt Update
03/12/2010 10:24 AM CST
Heh, how'd that happen, Thanks Reene.
Rish, it's not your brother calling next time. :)
Death Dealer Adakin of Prime
WorldsBestMagic Kastr of TF
"The Key To Immortality Is Living A Life Worth Remembering."
"Killing Time Murders Opportunities."
Rish, it's not your brother calling next time. :)
Death Dealer Adakin of Prime
WorldsBestMagic Kastr of TF
"The Key To Immortality Is Living A Life Worth Remembering."
"Killing Time Murders Opportunities."
JCAGLEX2
Re: Halt Update
04/06/2010 09:13 AM CDT
Any update on this? is Halt susposed to default to the target you're facing?
It isn't.
It isn't.
KARKWUSS
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 02:18 PM CDT
It would be REAL nice if this functionality was enacted/restored for Halt. I've found new use for it lately, and it is very annoying having to reconfirm your intended target everytime there is a change in the number of creatures in the area.
RAB1DW0MBAT
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 02:26 PM CDT
You use halt while hunting? Why?
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
RUSSEASBY
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 03:17 PM CDT
<< You use halt while hunting? Why? >>
It can be useful for backtraining weapons, but I prefer stun foe personally, but a paladin who has halt but not stun foe I could certainly see using halt in combat.
It can be useful for backtraining weapons, but I prefer stun foe personally, but a paladin who has halt but not stun foe I could certainly see using halt in combat.
RAB1DW0MBAT
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 04:52 PM CDT
Why would you be backtraining weapons if you have halt and not stun foe? You should be focusing on, oh I don't know, getting stun foe.
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
RUSSEASBY
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 05:13 PM CDT
<< Why would you be backtraining weapons if you have halt and not stun foe? You should be focusing on, oh I don't know, getting stun foe. >>
Halt is a prereq for stun foe.
Halt is a prereq for stun foe.
RAB1DW0MBAT
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 05:21 PM CDT
<< Why would you be backtraining weapons if you have halt and not stun foe? You should be focusing on, oh I don't know, getting stun foe. >>
>>Halt is a prereq for stun foe.
That doesn't answer the question. If you have halt, but not stun foe, you shouldn't be wasting time backtraining weapons. You should wait until after you get stun foe to mess around with that.
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
>>Halt is a prereq for stun foe.
That doesn't answer the question. If you have halt, but not stun foe, you shouldn't be wasting time backtraining weapons. You should wait until after you get stun foe to mess around with that.
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
RUSSEASBY
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 05:32 PM CDT
<< That doesn't answer the question. If you have halt, but not stun foe, you shouldn't be wasting time backtraining weapons. You should wait until after you get stun foe to mess around with that. >>
Ahh, cause you know best? Let people play how THEY want to play.
And for what its worth, I back train a pile of weapons while still keeping my primaries locked. Its hardly a waste of time.
Troll.
Ahh, cause you know best? Let people play how THEY want to play.
And for what its worth, I back train a pile of weapons while still keeping my primaries locked. Its hardly a waste of time.
Troll.
RAB1DW0MBAT
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 05:51 PM CDT
Yeah, um, backtraining is fine and dandy, but you might as well get the important stuff first before you get into a situation where you feel it necessary to backtrain, either for reqs or just out of fun. Stun foe is one of those end-all/be-all spells of the Paladin guild. But what do I know? I'm apparently just a troll for having an opinion on the matter. Thanks pal.
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
- Fist of the Heavens Korsik Rippentropp, Aegis of Justice
I warned you before I'm addicted to war
I was praying for Armageddon on the day I was born
JMF90
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 06:02 PM CDT
Halt should be fixed regardless of your belief that stun foe is better.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
AIRDRY
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 06:47 PM CDT
why does Halt need to be fixed? seems it's working exactly as they intended albeit not as efficient and in a different manner than it used to be. Stop trolling with your grand knowledge of nothing JMF90.
CHRISTIANSONK3
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 07:06 PM CDT
>>seems it's working exactly as they intended
Well it doesn't currently default to whatever you are facing. This was the intended change, that has since been rolled back (because of bugs, I believe).
Seems like it would be a worthwhile change to me.
-Landros
Well it doesn't currently default to whatever you are facing. This was the intended change, that has since been rolled back (because of bugs, I believe).
Seems like it would be a worthwhile change to me.
-Landros
TFPALADIN
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 07:08 PM CDT
Halt really does need to be fixed, and I dont think Im a troll. Just as Landros it doesnt currently default to what you are facing, makes the spell almost worthless. Would love to use halt for backtraining.
Has anybody done a test to see if the creature takes the same evasion penalty for SF VS Halt?
Has anybody done a test to see if the creature takes the same evasion penalty for SF VS Halt?
JMF90
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 07:11 PM CDT
>why does Halt need to be fixed? seems it's working exactly as they intended albeit not as efficient and in a different manner than it used to be. Stop trolling with your grand knowledge of nothing JMF90.
Halt was recently updated to be flagged as an offensive spell. This allows it to default to the creature your facing when you type "cast" without specifying a target. Somehow, this change got reverted. That's what needs to be fixed.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
Halt was recently updated to be flagged as an offensive spell. This allows it to default to the creature your facing when you type "cast" without specifying a target. Somehow, this change got reverted. That's what needs to be fixed.
>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.
SULLIVANS3
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 09:04 PM CDT
The change got rolled back because it was broken and causing a soul hit when halt was used against another PC. Yes, it still needs to be fixed. It is an offensive spell and should default to who/what ever you are facing without you needing to specify a target.
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
SULLIVANS3
Re: Halt Update
04/11/2010 09:11 PM CDT
Double post, sorry!
Actually, if you just go back a couple of pages to posts 3401, 3406 and 3407, it pretty much explains what happened.
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
Actually, if you just go back a couple of pages to posts 3401, 3406 and 3407, it pretty much explains what happened.
~Kattena
A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!