Hello, I am a 37th circle paladin and I would like to ask a few questions.

1. Stats. I am an Elf, and I like my defenses to be my focus. I've been favoring reflex, agility, and charisma. My strength is relatively up there too.

a. What does everyone else do?

b. What should my stats be by around 50th circle if I wanted to train most efficiently? I'm probably not going to follow the most efficient path, but a frame of reference would be great.

c. What specifically does charisma do? I am told to not neglect it but not really sure what it is specifically for. Is there a list of spells that factor in charisma?

2. Spells. When I train I am usually with a cleric friend, for whom I keep courage and lead up as much as I can. Or glyph of mana if the room mana is not great.

a. What spells do you use the most often in your day to day life?

b. What spells/abilities do you use in combat, and would it change if you weren't solo?

c. Is there a formula that can tell me how much mana I can put into a spell to have it consistently cast successfully?

3. Misc skills. What skills do you train that you don't necessarily need to circle, that you would recommend?

Any other advice?

a. What does everyone else do?

Get everything to 30 as Taghz said then its up to how you want to play your character.

b. What should my stats be by around 50th circle if I wanted to train most efficiently? I'm probably not going to follow the most efficient path, but a frame of reference would be great.

Depends on how you train. i'd focus on agility/reflex until 50th. this will help tremendously 50-100. at 100 I had 50 agility and reflex which is more than fine for hunting at that level. More can't hurt.

c. What specifically does charisma do? I am told to not neglect it but not really sure what it is specifically for. Is there a list of spells that factor in charisma?

Soul and spell contests are probably the most noticeable for a paladin. 30 is fine for 50th.

a. What spells do you use the most often in your day to day life?

I use RW by far and away more than any other spell for hunting. more damage = more exp so RW is great.

b. What spells/abilities do you use in combat, and would it change if you weren't solo?

Aside from RW, DA and SR are great. Courage and CrC also help. Doesn't change in groups or solo.

c. Is there a formula that can tell me how much mana I can put into a spell to have it consistently cast successfully?

No but it's always helpful to know what you can max all spells at. I suggest retesting every 5 circles or so.

3. Misc skills. What skills do you train that you don't necessarily need to circle, that you would recommend?

HUNT is awesome. Use cambs for Arcana. learn to skin (get belt worn knife). Appraise critters. collect dirt (or whatever teaches), fold paper and study compendium when no critters in your room.

it's not so much what skills you train but how many you can successfully train at all times. The more the better.


Side note: I train 6 melee + brawling at level and currently working up TM and ranged. I suggest to hunt in swarmy area and train as many weapons as possible so long as they are all learning after 1 or 2 cycles. Switch armors while hunting.

Some good recommendations already, I'll throw in a bit extra.

>>1. Stats. I am an Elf, and I like my defenses to be my focus. I've been favoring reflex, agility, and charisma. My strength is relatively up there too.
Don't forget discipline, it's the 2nd statistic used in the shield usage skill. Also important for spell defense.

>>a. What spells do you use the most often in your day to day life?
When I hunt I cast Divine Armor before heading out into the field and keep Holy Warrior, Righteous Wrath, Heroic Strength and Courage up at all times. If I'm hunting somewhere I don't feel safe I'll use anti-stun. I use that in invasions too now that I think about it.

>>3. Misc skills. What skills do you train that you don't necessarily need to circle, that you would recommend?
Some good suggestions on this one already. First Aid isn't required your whole career but if your like me and you became a Paladin because you like to help people, train it! I've saved countless lives with my 300+ FA skill and courage.

>>Any other advice?
I'd just like to echo the person who said train multiple weapons. I didn't when I was young and I suffered for it. I currently train 7 at level and dabble with 5 others. I'd suggest picking up a blunt, they are very fun. 2HB is by far my favorite weapon.

Train more than just HP and shield too. Some train all armors, I just train the 4 metal armors personally.

If you want to get places quick, don't neglect swimming/climbing.

I also can't remember if someone suggested appraising critters in combat. Lores are somewhat easy for us to learn and appraisal is a useful skill.



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>>Tbe whole stats to 30 thing, while good advice generally, is kind of useless early on. A lot of factors in play here, is your primary weapon 2HB or GS? (not likely, but stranger things happen), in such a case Stamina, Stength and Agility will be a primary focus rather then balanced stats early on. This is an extreme example, but only to prove a point that balanced early in life is not always best.

?? I see what you're saying but that's not a reason to not get everything to 30. Train str and stam up to 30 first then work on everything else but it's still a good idea to get everything to 30 before you start to specify.

<< ?? I see what you're saying but that's not a reason to not get everything to 30. Train str and stam up to 30 first then work on everything else but it's still a good idea to get everything to 30 before you start to specify. >>

Generally, especially since EXP changes, I personally think in early life that mentals really should be less focused on in early life (with magic primes being an exception). The difference Str, Stam, Agil and Reflex make in early life make far more a difference. I could easily see a situation where a training those to 40 or more first while keeping metals at 25 or so would make sense (engaging in PvP frequently where your spells need the mentals for success being the factor that changes this).

>>he difference Str, Stam, Agil and Reflex make in early life make far more a difference.

Currently there's not much incentive to train Str much past 30 unless you're really burdened or wielding a HUGE weapon. Pretty much the same with stamina. Not going to argue on the Agil and Reflex as those are always useful but so are mentals.

1a: I personally got everything to 30, then focused on STR/STAM (I used heavy weapons). Then AGI/REF. If I were an elf I would have definately gone with AGI/REF instead of STR/STAM after the 30's.
1b: not sure
2a: My most commonly used spells are RW, HeS, AS, Courage
2b: I make use of stun foe often as well, and the smite foe ability. Doesn't really change if i'm grouped.
2c: -
3a: Perception/stalking with HUNT

If you're not training Stamina you are gimping Spell vs Stamina (ie Stun Foe), and you may likely be in for a rude awakening, since the combat changes are slated to make fatigue more of an issue.

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-Iskhhr

""Explanations are ephemeral. They are the sword and shield of the attack, and behind them hides motivation."

>I don't agree with any of the advice posted so far.

Troll on.

I'm sorry but I still do not agree with these assessments.



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I'll also never convince people that it's silly to write these long diatribes answering novel questions like "what's the best way to make a new paladin" or "lol do i get anti stun of courage".

btw kids conflicts is just a couple of folders down if you would like to discuss this in a civilized manner

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<<I do understand the mentality of wanting to know different ways to do something though,

I always thought that people too lazy to read the 348634687439 threads with the exact same question were looking for the elite method.

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Hows that hope and change working out for you?

<<It is hard to blame anyone for reposts considering how much of a pain it is to route through these forums for old posts, IMO.

It's 3 clicks. Hence, lazy.

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Hows that hope and change working out for you?

I could not find a search button or I would not have posted. Thanks for the answers, got some expected ones and some thorough ones.

<<Long time Glemm, cant believe your still around. Do you still have that robocop thing from Herceles>>

Haha, yeah.

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