Hit 5th circle and went to get this quest. Headed all the way down to shard, found the orb room only to get this message:
>You attempt to focus on the orb, but you feel you need to rest and contemplate a bit first

After consulting some other players, apparently my soul state needed to be pristine. Ok, that makes sense. Wish the quest text would've hinted towards that a little more than 'If you are found worthy, you will be rewarded but your responsibility will increase accordingly.' Also, if you're NOT found worthy, would be nice if it gave you a little more than the 'You attempt to focus on the orb, but you feel you need to rest and contemplate a bit first' line.

Once I got my soul state up, I tried again. Same result. More asking other players. Turns out your soul pool also needs to be full enough (again, zero mention of this when getting the quest) AND if you've failed there's some sort of timer before you can try again. No mention of this in any messaging.

Now the last two points are conjecture, there's no mention of anything other than soul state needing to be pristine on the wiki, may pally as that and it's still giving him 'rest and contemplate' At this point, my wee pally apparently will have to just sit around in Shard and keep trying every so often. No idea if the timer counts down while I'm not logged in with him or not and if my soul pool still isn't full enough, it'll just keep failing with no warning.

This seems a bit rough. I understand these quests are 10+ years old but can you imagine an actual new player trying to get through this?

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The Glyph of Light Quest only took you 12 hours? You are quite lucky.

Before we had private boats, we had to take very slow public transportation. Try getting all of the way back to Crossings to give Darius the torch, only to discover that the Crossings Guild had closed while traveling to the islands on the quest. With Darius inaccessible and the Paladin Guild doors locked, I could not utter a word, scream, or even blink back tears, and here is what transpired. A moon mage managed to get into the back of the Paladin Guild (with the help of an expert Locksmith), and opened a moongate into the Courtyard, through which I was led by a fellow Paladin and taken into Darius's office. Thankfully, he was still sitting there and had not been transferred to Hib yet.

PS - I also broke the Holy Weapon Quest, and it took an entire year to fix. Advice, don't have anyone joined to you in the Guild, or else they'll have to die to get out of the quest that they were dragged into.

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Oh man.. GoLight quest, typo-ing Go Door with Gi Door, and failing while giggling. GREAT Times. On the flip, my most recent squire did the whole quest in like 5 minutes with a tad of preparation.

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> This isn't the first time I see this stated, so I wanted to offer an opinion here. Holy weapon is more than an RP instrument, although it is certainly a very unique theme/RP element as a permanent mundane weapon enhancement. Holy weapon is quite potent at max power even against the living, and you should definitely get it if you haven't already. A lot of the annoying parts of it were improved (by Javac IIRC) as others pointed out elsewhere.


My understanding is that the holy weapon is basically a normal weapon if you bother to use it. If I had a weapon that I only PvP'd with then sure, I'd do the quest, but why take my awesome sword of doom to my vault because I'm afraid of ruining it? I'm not saying it wasn't much worse before Javac's changes. I love that you can change a holy weapon without destroying the old one now, but I still don't see myself using it until it's at least as good as weapon flares. It may be potent, but DR is not conducive to rare-use items. I never use them, generally saving them for a special hero moment that may or may not come.

>>Forgive my ignorance, but what are weapon flares?

+damage boosts. They're a bit broken right now so I wouldn't really use it as a comparison metric.

>>Is it one of those mechanisms that doesn't work with holy weapon?

Most scripts don't play well with other scripts, but yeah.

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> Forgive my ignorance, but what are weapon flares? Is it one of those mechanisms that doesn't work with holy weapon?

Enchants like +fire damage.

> +damage boosts. They're a bit broken right now so I wouldn't really use it as a comparison metric.

I wasn't referring to raw power. It's more the fact that enchants can stay on for 6 months at 8 hours a day. You infrequently need to charge it with infuser stones vs needing to find an altar or pay item to keep your guild ability running.

I think Javac fixed or tried to fix the holy weapon script stacking thing. I'm not sure if it was solved, though. Let me see if I can find the post...

>Try it in Test, if the instance is open to you. When I made some changes recently, I attempted to allow scripted weapons to be usable, but I can't remember all of the limitations off hand. Certain types may not work still, I don't recall what all is supported, and I'm not familiar with the Scream enchant.

>Javac
>That one guy

>>I would love for holy weapons to be similar to enchants as far as timing. I like the idea of spending 100 plat for a stone that extends an holy weapon for another 1500 hours. As a level 50+ is not unreasonable in the slightest. I own an icon, even though I don't have a holy weapon, just in case they change.

I MUCH prefer the modern charge method over a pay item. Again, go GET one and use it, especially having an icon it will last longer then the cooldown of the icon.

Samsaren

> I MUCH prefer the modern charge method over a pay item. Again, go GET one and use it, especially having an icon it will last longer then the cooldown of the icon.

Okay. I'll give it a shot. Who knows, maybe this is the best thing since sliced bread. Any recommendations for day-to-day use, RP aside? Should I use my highest skill weapon? Weapon with the worst balance? Weapons with the most damage? Or weapons that are on the low-end of skill for what I'm hunting to reduce the number of whiffs?

>>Any recommendations for day-to-day use, RP aside? Should I use my highest skill weapon?

I suggest the biggest, meanest ruggedest version of your top weapon. Hopefully that is a pole or two hander in modern DR. Personally, I use a Sterak as LE is my prime. Yes, I'm aware LE is the sad step-child of the blades these days, but I cannot wrap my head around using a barn door and a two hander. I'll suffer the loss for sense.

>>I think the current charge methods should stay the same, but they should be greatly extended so that it encourages use rather than discourages it.

The charge at 50th isn't overhuge (though I recall it being over an hour of usage, back 13ish years ago during the parry/jab days. You burned a lot of charge on 1 second jabs, and there's been oodles of changes sense then). The charge at the upper end, especially with a lot of charisma is..Robust. Now that icons aren't as over the top rare, and travel is a mere shadow of the issue it was, being able to get to one of the charging stations isn't nearly as painful as it was. Heck, for a long time I was using the Chadatru prayer (the charge method) as my couple times a day soul top off to maintain my title. Actually USING my holy weapon, even as a trainer, is NOT a problem.

Samsaren

>>Shift3: To be clear, I wasn't recommending using an infuser stone. I'm only using this as a point of reference for how long each stone lasts. I think the current charge methods should stay the same, but they should be greatly extended so that it encourages use rather than discourages it.

Before February 2017, that was an accurate description. The recharging mechanics were overly punitive, which discouraged its use. (If your weapon ran out of charges, you needed to recharge it twice with no use between recharging and a one-hour cooldown after each recharging.)

Now that it no longer penalizes you for running out of charges (it just functions as a normal weapon until you recharge it once), it is much more practical to use your holy weapon as a hunting weapon.

While I would like to see more permanent recharging locations, and I am not overly fond of requiring a paid item to optimize a guild ability, holy weapons are still a pretty reasonable system overall. (The portable icons are becoming more common and affordable, with the most recent one from Droughtman's costing $15 or less.)


>>Shift3: Secondly, IIRC, infuser stones are (or will be?) available in the rare item hopper. They are (will be?) like scrolls with enchanting. You can (will be?) get them without MT events.

Currently, the only sources of infuser stones are all paid events. (Note: I don't consider it not a paid item just because you can find someone reselling it for plats.)

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I use a 2HE as well. That said, it might be fun to have a holy hurling axe. Full disclosure: I'm not a fan of HE (LE will always be light edged to me) with some exceptions like the sterak axe. Generally, by the time you can wield the heavy HEs you're better off focusing on any 2-hander for the reasons Isharon gave. The only thing you get from HE over 2HE is template variety (there's no thrown 2HE or jabber). I think small edged weapons remain better dps and combat balance/position stone-for-stone due to RT, although they don't go as heavy. Polearm is better than all if you keep it relatively close to the others. I'm always going to preach polearms, even as a 2HE primary dude. It's also arguably more thematically appropriate.

I don't think you'll feel the effects of charisma much with holy weapon. I felt like circle played a bigger role, but that may just be coincidence since stats generally go up as you circle even when you devalue one. Or, maybe it's because circle has an effect on soul. I dunno.

>>So I should go pole arm then? How about this thing? https://elanthipedia.play.net/Weapon:Gold-inlaid_steel_scythe_with_a_carved_oak_haft_(2)

It has nice stats given that the density appears to be 10, but there are nicer end-loot options out there these days with better stats/more durability/lower weight/etc.

That said, you can always switch which weapon is your holy weapon once every RL year.

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Late here, but yeah. The quests can be hard to figure out. Took me several trips to Shard just to find the spot and figure out the soul state thing. GoL near killed me twice, took a third trip with help. GoE was hard for me to figure out the spot until someone gave me a better hint. And Holy Weapon quest was broke when I did it. Got killed and departed to SHARD. What a mess, took a GM to save me.

Good luck and have fun questing!


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