The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/01/2015 09:17 AM CDT
Necromancers are traditionally associated with morbid accoutrements. Skulls, bones and blood all figure into the popular conception of a necromantic "style." The reality is a bit different. There are certainly Perverse that wear Grim Reaper robes with bone accessories, but not even the great Lyras wore black. Necromancers have a diverse set of symbolism they use, and the Philosophers of the Knife double-down on that by bringing in a perverted image of spiritual alchemy to necromancy.

The following is but a few examples of signs and symbols that the Philosophers use:

Bounding:
Not one symbol but a modification of other symbols, drawing a circle around another image is seen as "negation" or "containment" of the symbolic meaning. Often used with the Thirteen Pointed Star, but also sees work in demonology.

Catalyst:
An arrow-line starting horizontal and curving gracefully to point upward. In material alchemy it denotes its namesake, while in the Philosophers' work it has a broader implication. Catalyst is the action that incites change, the actual raw stuff or act of the Great Work. In some contexts this is rendered as "transformation," while in others it could be read as the directive "act."

Chimeras:
While the existence of the chimera is mythical, the Philosophers use chimerical beasts as a symbol for Risen.

Coagulation:
Two diagonal lines converging at the bottom of a circle. Primarily used by Empaths and herbalists to refer to magic and herbs that have blood-staunching effects. Among the Philosophers it primarily refers to the Philosophers (the organization) themselves, sometimes specifically to the Triumphant (the idea).

Color Purple:
Depending on context, purple is seen as a color characterizing divinity/royalty, "the divine right to rule." It is also the color most often associated with Sorcery. Strangely, this is not limited to Philosophers: when Lyras appeared in the Provinces, she wore purple robes.

Crucible:
A stylized flame bounded by a square. Primarily used to refer to its namesake, though Philosophers use it broadly to refer to "purification." Has an archaic usage among some Warrior Mages to refer to the Fire Manipulation book.

Knife:
Iconic beyond measure, the knife is the prime tool of the necromantic arts. Basic meaning is, simply, "necromancy." The Philosophers of the Knife derive their name from it, literally "philosophers of necromancy." There is also a significant philosophical meaning behind the knife, which Kigot likened to the struggle for a Philosopher to chart the right action among the base evil of necromancy. Kigot is cited saying, "Between a Necromancer and a monster is the width of a knife."

Ouroboros:
A symbol of life and death, used by the Philosophers in a negative connotation: "the Cycle," the continuation of pain and suffering on Elanthia to feed the gods. Used in some contexts to refer to Life magic. The few Life magicians and priests that play with alchemical symbolism view it as a positive symbol, some going so far as to denote their own view of spiritual purification with it!

Palimpsest:
Like Bounding, this is a way of manipulating symbols rather than a symbol itself. A palimpsest is a series of multiple images stylistically written "over" each other, symbolically combining their meanings. The spiritual-alchemical operations of the Great Work tend to be written in palimpsest form.

Squaring the Circle:
A rather arcane symbol: a circle bounded by a square, bounded by a triangle, bounded by another circle. Outside of all other context, means, "doing the impossible." While the Great Work has many symbols associated with it, this is the primary symbol the Philosophers use to denote it.

The Sun:
The most venerated symbol of the Philosophers, far from their morbid origins, is the dawning Sun. The Sun represents divinity and the completion of the Great Work. It is the divine fire they hope to steal in order to fuel their living immortality (and bring back to humanity... theoretically).

Staked Serpent:
A writhing serpent with a stake through its head. Derived from the Ouroboros, it means "breaking the Cycle." It has a plethora of specific meanings: sometimes referring to the Alchemy of Flesh (the actual book), sometimes to Lichdom, and occasionally to the Great Work in a specifically militant, violent connotation. [OOC Note: For the people keeping score at home, this is a derivative of Flemel's Cross.]

-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/01/2015 04:33 PM CDT


>Flemel's cross...

More similar in meaning to the Staff of Asclepius or the Cadeuseus? I ask because most info seems to be about Full Metal Alchemist.
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/01/2015 04:50 PM CDT
It's featured in Full Metal Alchemist rather prominently, though I don't recall it ever being explained there.

The long story short is you can think of Flamel as the prototype Transcended -- he's a French scribe that gained a mythic reputation as a master alchemist who succeeded in the magnum opus, granting him and his wife immortality where they still live to this day.

Like a lot of things in the Western occult tradition, it's about 5% fact and 95% bunk. There was a dude named Flamel, but all the alchemical attributions from him appear to have been made centuries after his death.

In Jungian psychology (and Google Images) the symbol is often called the Crucified Serpent.

-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/01/2015 09:12 PM CDT


So being mortal is to be mutable, changing and fluid, while being Immortal is to be fixed and permanent?

Poking around a bit into the meaning and historical/religious significance of the symbol reminds me that Alchemy wasn't just about fiddling when chemicals in pursuit of something to turn lead to gold... Crazy stuff.
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/02/2015 12:50 PM CDT
>>More similar in meaning to the Staff of Asclepius or the Cadeuseus?

From a quick Google search I did after reading to brush up on a few things: The Caduceus, Hermes' staff, symbolizes cooperation among otherwise not-so-cooperative parties, and given its bearer, is just as associated with commerce as with healing, while the Rod of Asclepius, while having a closer meaning, bears magical healing properties. The symbolism is very similar, but the intent appears to be different. Meanwhile, the staked serpent also has Biblical connotations (Numbers 21:6-9) of a healing property. Christianity has, additionally, historically used a similar symbolism to show the death of false gods. or of the Infernal. That appears to be a much more apt comparison to the intent here, though the meanings are slightly inverted.

Alchemy, and the symbolism it uses, is quite fun -- especially given its extrapolation by Jung as a symbolic spiritual transformation.



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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/02/2015 03:54 PM CDT


The story behind the Caduceus is that Nestor saw two snakes mating, and separated them with the Staff, imbuing it with powers, and also turning him into a woman for 7 years until he could find another pair of copulating snakes (was that a feature or a bug?). It's supposed to also have power over duality (in line with your 'cooperation of otherwise not-so-cooperative party' point). Hermes was also the patron god of Alchemists.

The staff of Asclepius is thought to have symbolism derived from the traditional cure for Dracunculiasis, which I do not suggest you google if you are squeamish, and being the staff of Apollo, who is the patron god of healing/healers, is more traditionally and accurately the symbol of hospitals.

I'm not posing these as disagreements, fwiw.
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/02/2015 05:37 PM CDT
I love Greek mythology.



"Nobody cares about the feasibility of Sidhlot's portrayal of evil. That's not the point. He's older than dragons and so metal he poops viking helmets." - Armifer

"That is so not how magic works." -Raesh

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu-proxy R'lyeh
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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/02/2015 06:53 PM CDT
I really enjoy these kinds of posts.

I have been working on a new character concept, and I guess I'm on the right track, because I have been incorporating a lot of this imagery. (Just the other day I was wondering if the concept/image of squaring the circle existed in Elanthia.)



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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/02/2015 11:14 PM CDT
I knew I read of Squaring the Circle before...

https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Post:The_Unknown_-_5/9/2010_-_5:15:14


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Re: The Signs By Which You Will Know Them 08/03/2015 09:42 AM CDT
>>Hermes was also the patron god of Alchemists.

Myths surrounding Hermes have an enormous impact on Western occultism. While in an academic sense we're pretty sure that Hermes was fictional from the beginning, the myth of Hermes, Thoth, Hermes Thrice Great, and that whole related cluster of divinities basically channeled Western esoteric thought through the Christian era.

Like I said, 95% bunk, but some truly fascinating bunk to read the origins of our concept of ritual magic and theurgy. If you're interested, "The Way of Hermes" is my favorite translation of the Corpus Hermeticum. By which I mean it is actually readable and flows well.

-Armifer
"Perinthia's astronomers are faced with a difficult choice. Either they must admit that all their calculations were wrong ... or else they must reveal that the order of the gods is reflected exactly in the city of monsters." - Italo Calvino
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