From what brief testing I've managed, this appears to be working correctly... although there a no moons for 2.5 hours so I can't test slivers. Figures. :p

<<2) It is no longer possible for your spell to fail because of speed & weight calculations. These calculations are still used for messaging, but you will always achieve a velocity necessary to harm a target if you're using an object that's valid for the spell.

I just want to confirm two things with this. First, this basically means that any item that can be picked up and dropped can be used as ammunition now? Second, does this mean that objects that previously were too heavy for the spell to move now just do minimum damage? I.e. sorting room inventory is no longer necessary to do damage period, but still necessary to maximize damage.

Got it. I was doing more testing and noticed everything was damaging about the same and came to that same conclusion, so that has made this a much less hoop-jumpy spell now. Thanks!

I can't wait to try out slivers! 2 hours 15 minutes and counting now... :/

>but it'd be a pretty extreme change so I want to have more thought time.

If it made MMs less obnoxious to play, where there weren't long periods of 'sorry you can't use XYZ because no moons' I'd probably consider actually playing one.

I have a question: ammo no longer matters, right? So a rock will do the same damage as a capped crafted arrow? I think this is a vastly outdated question, since my knowledge of MMs is like 5+ years old.

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I'm a bit confused as to why the object thrown wouldn't affect damage. How does a rock do the same damage as a needle, or a dust bunny (I haven't tried to use a dust bunny yet ...) ? Would anyone care to shed some light on this for me?

I do recognize that inconsistency would be a major concern, but is the solution really to just make object type irrelevant?

>Plus at the speeds TKT is supposed to be launching things (often in excess of 100mph) innocuous things can start punching holes in concrete.

Per Mythbusters...

MYTH:
A piece of straw can penetrate all the way through a palm tree if propelled by hurricane-force winds.

RESULT: BUSTED
Propelling a piece of straw at a palm tree at a distance of 50cm at 320mph (the world record for recorded wind speed at ground level), the straw only managed to penetrate the tree a quarter of an inch. Even firing at the tree while it was bent (to increase the size of the pores in the surface of the tree) at point blank range added no additional distance into the tree.

HOWEVER:
A piece of reed was tested as the sturdiest organic object that might be mistaken for a piece of straw. At both ranges, the reed only managed to go about two inches into the tree.

FURTHERMORE!:
Additionally, Jamie tried a piece of piano wire, and at 50 cm, it flew not only through the tree but through a sheet of plywood on the wall behind it, partially embedding itself into the cement wall.

http://mythbustersresults.com/episode61

I would say your myth is 'Plausible' given the piano wire experiment. That is, if piano wire exists in game, and the TKT is being cast at 320mph, and at point blank range (50cm or 19.685 inches). Myself, I usually do my fighting at an avg of 20 inches from my adversary. Like ninjas. Shorter sword gets me in under the samurai's longer, cumbersome katana. I never fail. </3 samurai.

C'MON KEEEID WE GOIN' TO THE COPA!

<That is, if piano wire exists in game,

I actually used to love using embroidery needles with TKT back when I played a moonie. Stick a needle in my eye!

>>I still don't see how normalizing everything is the ideal.

Normalizing tkt's damage should be the ideal so it can fit with the rest of the TM spells in the game.

>>base tkt damage on weapon stats? Such that "perfect" piercing/impact would do full damage, or something along those lines?

It should be mana capped for full damage; No skirting around it by finding the "perfect" item.

>>Probably asking for too much here, but would it be possible to make objects that don't already have damage stats be normalized to some very low baseline, and then to base tkt damage on weapon stats? Such that "perfect" piercing/impact would do full damage, or something along those lines? It might also be a good idea to have a command that will allow you to designate an object as the one to use for the spell?

Seriously? Just go away.

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-Raesh

Changes to TKT and TKS sound pretty sweet, is there any way for this spell to work with "piles" so i don't have to separate rocks out of collected piles for the spell to use them?

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Odd.

Damage shouldn't really have changed with these updates.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

Y'all are gonna hate me but...

> [tm_spam]: cast

You gesture at a swamp troll.
Your cambrinth armband emits a loud snap as it discharges all its power to aid your spell.
A wee crimson sliver suddenly swings from orbiting around your head and zips toward a swamp troll!
It manages to get out of the way!
A wee crimson sliver suddenly swings from orbiting around your head and zips toward a swamp troll!
The crimson sliver lands a strong (7/23) hit to its neck!

Roundtime: 1 sec.

> tap sliver

You tap a wee crimson sliver on the ground.

There was no, "The crimson sliver explodes into even tinier multicoloured fragments and vanishes!" after that hit. My script ran for 549 seconds and created two ground slivers. Trying to find where the other was created to post that message as well.