Hi, All:

I was speaking with a GM about a possible sect change. The mentioned that it was not possible now, but they suggested that I take it to the forums to see if it was a subject worth looking into.

My character went through a series of RP events that led me to believe that he should not only leave the sect that he is in, but also be drawn to a different sect. Since events like this can happen, I think it would be good for characters to be able to switch, but I also understand that we wouldn't want people switching sects willy nilly. So, who thinks switching sects seems like a smart option, and if so, what should go into it? A limited number of changes ever? I limit number per time period? Takes Simu coins? Can only be done at a special NPC at events? What does everyone think?!?

Thanks,
Voksrig

I'm more than happy with my sect but I want to see this happen 100%. I also do not want this to be connected to festivals or MTX or rl $. Initially I wanted this to be punishing but what's the point of that in the end? It probably should be something you can change once a rl year like a holy weapon and just handwave the lore in the interest of playability. It should be accessible via a 24/7 available NPC. Many sected Moon Mages choose a sect that doesn't match how they RP their MM anyway (either through ignorance of the sects or evolution of their character).

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Skaen,
Thats why I really didnt wanrt to suggest trying it into RL money for simucoins, but I did want to mention it since it was originally posted.

As for being at HE, simple, put it at the entrance that everyone can access. Maybe add a tent so you're not inundated with all the folks standing there doing things. Least with the spell casting there & no combat thats cut down a lot of scroll.
This way no one has to pay for a MT that they dont want too, its easily accessible to all as they wont have to travel to say Dirge to see the monk that helps you rechoose your sect (just an idea for an example, not saying thats whats gonna happen). If my mage is in Hib, or Aesry they wont have to travel back to do it.

Guildfest is not a MT, I'm not sure why folks are calling it one but anyways. GF is now every 2 RL yrs, I figure thats a good place to have it happen as 2 rl years is "punishment" enough. And this way no one is willy nilly changing it, keeping it closer to the original vision of a sect choice being a lifetime choice.
I'm not sure how to retcon the choice of a lifetime, but I do agree that some folks (like myself) choose certain sects & either outgrew them, had decided to go in a different way of RPing their mage, or something else.

So, if a poll was taken, yes I'd rather have the choice of being able to rechoose my mages sect than rerolling him (even if he isnt that high of a circle).

>>LCAMP2: F2P players cannot access it without paying, so it has some level of microtransaction to it.

F2P players can access Guildfest via the visa system, which is free (unlike passports from the SimuCoin Store).

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I think Moon Mages should be able to change sects because what real-world affiliation group doesn't have some way to get kicked out? If the Sects are there to provide meaningful RP distinctions for your character, why wouldn't that character be able to change as their life changes? Ideally, we're all role-playing our characters as interesting, complex, dynamic characters who go through trials and traumas- why wouldn't their affiliation change over the course of their life?

I don't think it should be as simple as a paid token from the store, or a vendor at a fest; I'd like to see it be a quest, perhaps something annoying your character has to go through in order to "earn" being snubbed by their sect, enabling them to join another. For ease of development, it could be one quest to get kicked out of all sects. To enhance the RP-ability of it, there could be a sort of cooldown timer after the quest, where no sect will accept you for a month after. You've disgraced yourself and need to let the rumors die down.

I like the idea. If it were up to me, I'd make it so you have to talk to the sect leader and ask about leaving, and they basically mindwipe you to keep their secrets.

Back when I could afford to play subscribed charactes, I became a Tezerite. Because my friend was one. Knowing what I know now about sorcery and the morals of my old character... if I got a chance to play them again, I'd want out of that sect, I think. I would mostly miss the neat little abilities.

The alternative, which would be most costly in GM time, would be to have some sect RP going where people who don't like their choice would at least get to sell out. Secrets and spying, the good old stuff. Then you'd get kicked out for betraying the sect!

I agree that sect changes should be possible. There's no reason RP can't cause a desire to change over time, and I know of at least one sect where uncovering the mysteries behind it might drive away some interested characters.

Make it once every six months or RL year. That should be plenty of time.

- Navesi

The First Land Herald -- Zoluren's newspaper. https://elanthipedia.play.net/The_First_Land_Herald

I'd 100% support this. If it encourages roleplay, and has valid reasons to be an option, I think it should be considered

He was born to one of the nomadic tribes on the Arid Steppe; not born as a member into the Nomads of the Arid Steppe sect. There are many non-moon mage/shaman professions within the tribes. If his tribe's shaman had not died during his youth it's likely he would have joined the Nomad sect but as it was Tiv ran into a Monk of the Crystal Hand and learned his arts through that sect.

https://elanthipedia.play.net/Profiles_in_Magic,_Volume_17_(book)

https://elanthipedia.play.net/Category:Nomads_of_the_Arid_Steppe#Armifer_Lore

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<<To me, being a member of the tribe and being a member of the sect would be the same thing.

It's not though. The arid steppe is location where the various nomad tribes live. They are mostly warriors, hunters and gatherers who are not gifted with magic, lunar or otherwise. Some of them are, however, and includes elementalists, seers, and so on. The shamans of these tribes are the seers and it is from their ranks that the moon mage guild Nomads came from. The entire first section of the previously linked official lore on the nomad tribes is quite clear about this.