No massive thread of excitement? Sounds really cool.

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Right now the Moon Mage place on the "combat pet totem pole" is the part that's sunk into the earth to lower the pole's center of gravity.
-Armifer de Dragonrealms

I've only played around with it for a few minutes but so far I like it a lot. I can see it being incredibly useful!


Mialeigh Arekher, Triager of the Order of the White Rose
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There are two ways to live your life,
One is as if nothing is a miracle.
The other way is as if everything is.
-» Albert Einstein

>Sounds cool. Any feedback from folks with access?

It's limited to premium subscribers if you don't have an extra spell slot. I imagine you have plenty.

But me likey.

>>My immediate question was are Lethargy and/or Nissa's Binding are being converted to TM? If so, when?

There's no intention of doing that at this time.

-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas

>Moving well, a pure white alfar avenger swings with an unusual black blade at a ship's rat. A ship's rat attempts to dodge, failing miserably. The blade lands an extremely heavy hit that cuts deeply into the fleshy part of the left palm!
>The ship's rat screams one last time and lies still.

>A ship's rat begins to move again, the anesthetic effect having obviously worn off.

ZOMBIE RAT!

Maybe the verbiage needs to change a little for a dead critter? All in all I -really- like this spell so far, it's great!

<<Note that the spell is not effective against the undead and will likely anger them further.>>

Just out of curiosity, why do so many of our spells and abilities keep doing this? I can only assume it's because we were always intended to have an ability to unmake the undead, but it sure seems like that's never going to happen at this point so I wonder if perhaps there's another reason. For all I know it could just be a coincidence that someone thinks the way the spells are described warrants the limitation rather than some overarching design decision (in which case an effort should be made to stop doing that, because it's kind of annoying).

In any event, our ability to deal with undead creatures should be above average, not sub-par. So if we're not going to have an ability to directly defeat them, we should probably do a complete U-turn on the idea that our non-attack effects should be ineffective, and instead make them extra effective against undead. At least for corporeal undead...the idea of anesthetizing a ghost it kind of silly.

Thanks,
-Death's Nemesis Karthor

>>In any event, our ability to deal with undead creatures should be above average, not sub-par.

Empaths specialize in abilities that deal with the ability to detect and handle life. Un-life is actually the opposite of their focus, not an extension of their focus.

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Right now the Moon Mage place on the "combat pet totem pole" is the part that's sunk into the earth to lower the pole's center of gravity.
-Armifer de Dragonrealms

This almost seems bug-like, but not really. If you perceive while preparing Paralysis, you get the following:

You are preparing the Paralysis spell at ten mana which feels distinctly offensive or damaging.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

While not strictly incorrect, I wonder if perhaps that statement should be stuck only on Shock-inducing spells rather than all "offensive" ones since the two are now distinguishable.

Thanks,
-Death's Nemesis Karthor

It's not a bug, empaths using TM is highly offensive

Why are you not healbots anymore

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We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.

I've cast up to 40 and gotten that little imbalance. Tried various 2 legged and 4 legged to see if that made any difference. It hasn't for me. Talking with Cristalyn she's toppled a Lang pec with a 20 mana cast.

Asbhuan

>>Any ETA on when this spell will be on preview for the general public? Id like to be able to try it out too...

If you have open spell slots just go pick it up. I wasn't worried about loosing a spell slot if it sucks since I had 24 before I picked it up

It's pretty much because we don't want people learning infinite TM without killing stuff / moving on to a new creature.

If Empaths couldn't train their TM on constructs now as well it'd probably be more of a legitimate issue but you've got the options.

-Z

If I could use this spell with manipulation I would be a happy camper.. however.. at the moment the two are mutually exclusive. =(

Manipulation = No Spellcasting

>Manipulation = needs total rewrite

Fixed that for you.

Concentration costs make sense for Thieves since they don't need to use magic. For Empaths, it's really a raw deal.

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>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.

>>I wouldn't expect BOLT spam to stay the way it is. We will want with M3.0 the best way of learning TM to be to kill stuff with it and do good damage, not to land a bazillion grazing hits. Also goal is to make TM not horribly suck at low ranks.

Thank you so much, I hate training that way

Fair enough. Thanks.


~ Purehand

If you're really committed to training TM as an empath I recommend just using the shotgun method with bolt on Boggles. It won't take terribly long to cap them out and then you can use para on beisswurms and maybe a few ranks in rock trolls till you can shotgun gargoyles. I recall reading that they're going to remove the ability to do this with bolt, though I can't remember where, so sooner rather than later might be a good idea.

Strange Arrow = Love

>late but,grazing hits? dont weapons learn this way too now?eh? still Cant wait till the TM grazing is gone,hate keeping stuff alive to learn

Yes.

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>describe boar
It's a boar. It doesn't like you.