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Re: Healing Tricks 03/17/2006 04:18 PM CST
>>Using macros provides the speed and ease-of-use of a script with the precision of manually entering each command, while eliminating tedious typing.

I would love to convert to an image map, but at the moment I'm stuck with buttons and mouseclicks. Typing optional.

J'Lo, no that other one
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Re: Healing Tricks 03/17/2006 11:59 PM CST
My wifey uses a macro key approach. I don't think it is something I could ever convert to, but if it works for you, more power to you.

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Re: Healing Tricks 03/18/2006 08:28 AM CST
When I'm healing on my Empath, I have some custom scripts set up that I can use to heal certain sets of wounds. E.g, I can type ",taket {player} allw" (which takes all their external wounds) or ",taket {player} h hi n ni c ci rls" (taking head, head internal, neck, neck internal, chest, chest internal, and right leg external scar).

It's fun.

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Re: Healing Tricks 03/18/2006 03:27 PM CST
>Hm, am I the only one who uses macros to heal anymore?

Nope, I still use macro's too, although I have a quick script I use to heal the fresh and scars from 1 body part at a time that is good for all the light scuffing stuff.
(ie. .takepart <person> left arm)

Lots of good ideas I've heard over the years to make that a little easier on me, but that's how I set myself up to heal way back when, and since it's not broke...:P

Although, I think I need to claim a few more keys for macros to take half, now that I can do that consistantly, it's a good thing to use.

Kythryn
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Re: Healing Tricks 03/18/2006 08:45 PM CST
>-GM Obseden

Very nice.

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Re: Healing Tricks 03/18/2006 09:25 PM CST
I go to the Empath's guild. That always seems to work nicely.

Malkien The Barbarian
Apis the Cleric
Ragesong the Bard
CoolMule the Warrior Mage

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Re: Healing Tricks 03/19/2006 01:15 AM CST
:P

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Re: Healing Tricks 03/22/2006 10:00 AM CST
I use custom made scripts too. I have 4 different ones (ext, extscar, int, int scar) that will take every wound in the corresponding category. Taking them that way helps make sure I don't overheal cause I can check my wounds after each step.
Also, I start taking internals first, that way if someone asks to keep a bleeder I don't have to tell them it's too late. And having separate scar scripts is nice if someone came in after departing and only has scars.

When in triage situation, I take the vitals and heal them on myself then run scripts for the rest.

I like Obseden's script, sounds like it'd be nice if someone only had one or two wounds. But if they only have a couple of wounds I stretch my fingers a bit and type it out manually. :)

~Ahri
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Re: Healing Tricks 03/22/2006 10:58 AM CST
I have stongly considered creating a by part script after yesterday when I accidently started my script on someone who had a rogue teleport :)
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Re: Healing Tricks 05/17/2006 12:39 PM CDT
Wow. You guys and your various scripts impress me.

Mine's simple. Just takes everything, and waits for "you touch" messaging before going onto the next.

Maybe I'll develop a few more, or maybe I'll just work on the combat script that wont' die.
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Healing Systems 10/23/2007 05:45 PM CDT
That recent update to gangrene and bleeding reminded me of that massive health/healing system rewrite that was talked about back in 2003. Out of curiosity, is Towint still plugging away at that? Are portions of it going to be released as they're completed, or is it something that's got to be done all at once? Is it even still being done? Just wondering.

Thanks,
-Grand Master Empath Karthor
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Re: Healing Systems 10/24/2007 06:55 AM CDT
Towint left staff a while ago, so while bits and pieces have been worked on, no one has been on it 100 percent since he's been gone (it's a very very large system). However, Dartenian and a few others are in the process of really examining a lot of these larger (and older systems), so I suspect more changes and updates will be coming down the pike.

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Re: Healing Systems 10/24/2007 03:30 PM CDT
Oh, okay. Thanks for the update.

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-Grand Master Empath Karthor
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Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/25/2008 10:18 PM CDT
My second character is an Empath, and I recently started playing her again after not paying much attention to her for several months. I am having trouble healing that I assume is the result of the recent changes to the concentration system.

I am circle 21, with 103 max concentration, 98 ranks in empathy, and relevant magic skills in the 80s-90s. Before my break, my links rarely broke, and my spells rarely back-fired unless I was working with a seriously injured patient. I assumed that I had finally grown out of routine link breaks and backfiring.

Now I find that my links frequently break on moderately wounded patients. My spells are backfiring more than usual, and my harnessed mana frequently dissipates, even when I am using low preps and low harnesses. I am not attempting to heal quickly. I feel like a baby Empath again.

Older Empaths I spoke with seem to be having similar problems. For example, manipulation no longer works properly. One "Battle Empath" said that she was in combat, and her concentration dropped so low that she could neither heal herself or gweth.

Is concentration supposed to work this way for Empaths? I never had these problems before.



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Re: Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/25/2008 11:09 PM CDT
>>Is concentration supposed to work this way for Empaths? I never had these problems before.

Yes and no. Yes, it's supposed to work this way, in that Concentration is still getting rewritten to use smaller numbers and all abilities/calculations that use, define, or depend on concentration will be rescaled to fit this rewrite (the idea here is to stay in roughly the same place we were, but on a much flatter/smaller scale). No, in that at the moment the Concentration rewrite was accidentally half-released. Max concentration is now on the new formula and thus our max concentration is lower. Regeneration and ability costs are not, and so we still drain/regain hideously fast.

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Re: Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/26/2008 04:50 PM CDT
>>Is concentration supposed to work this way for Empaths? I never had these problems before.

The recent changes to concentration fouled up a lot of Empath systems seemingly beyond all repair. Since the concentration changes were rolled out inadvertantly, a lot of things, including Empath stuff, wasn't updated to take the changes into consideration. So it's definitely not supposed to work the way it currently does.

We've been told that it's being worked on. The changes to avengers, for example, are a temporary fix because manipulate doesn't work the way it should anymore.

[I should note that most of this information has been gleaned from the message boards, since my Empath was started after the concentration changes.]
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Re: Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/26/2008 06:45 PM CDT
>>I should note that most of this information has been gleaned from the message boards, since my Empath was started after the concentration changes.

You basically hit it on the button, Lorz.

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Re: Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/27/2008 11:41 AM CDT
Well... it's an exaggeration to say "fouled up ... seemingly beyond all repair." Obviously they're not beyond repair since, they are in fact being repaired. It's just taking some time to do it.

And while avengers might not stay quite so powerful once all the dust settles, all the GS are getting rewritten to have specific abilities, and it's a fair bet that avengers will end up more like they are now than they were before.

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Re: Concentration Problems With Basic Healing 04/27/2008 12:28 PM CDT
>>"fouled up ... seemingly beyond all repair."

Yes, I was being snarky.
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Stealth and Healing 07/24/2008 02:47 AM CDT
Any 5, 10, 15 year plan to ever make it so healing from invisible would have a check to not give away the name?

-Criminal Clemency L'Envers
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Re: Stealth and Healing 07/24/2008 09:35 AM CDT
lol i love that idea

an empath sneaks in from the west unnoticed by anyone

barb is talking to paladin about the latest wounds he's received from creatureA

an empath sneaks out of the room undetected

paladin asks what wounds barb is talking about

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Re: Stealth and Healing 07/24/2008 11:12 AM CDT
On a related note, it would be nice if TOUCH and TAKE (or TRANSFER) worked with the act-on-hidden-targets mechanics. Bonus points if they don't reveal the hidden person being healed, and the room messaging for injuries looking better should probably be suppressed in this case. It's a bit odd asking someone who just got clobbered by a creature to unhide so I can heal them, when in fact their unhiding puts them at greater risk.

Thanks,
-War Healer Karthor
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Re: Stealth and Healing 07/24/2008 11:22 AM CDT
>>On a related note, it would be nice if TOUCH and TAKE (or TRANSFER) worked with the act-on-hidden-targets mechanics. Bonus points if they don't reveal the hidden person being healed, and the room messaging for injuries looking better should probably be suppressed in this case. It's a bit odd asking someone who just got clobbered by a creature to unhide so I can heal them, when in fact their unhiding puts them at greater risk.

That would be really great. Then even people with uber hiding could whisper to the Empath so the Empath gets the point effect and can heal them. I love it.


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