So.. I've been away for awhile but I'm getting back into the swing of things. Been rocking combat a lot, working up my defenses and locking my primaries, and then going and backtraining up my HT, HE, MB, and HX. So all that's fine and dandy.. can lock up everything.. but..

For the life of me, I can't effectively move TM outside of sitting in a class and learning! So I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

My TM and my main weapon (ME) are about 10 ranks from each other, with TM being higher. I can slay through a variety of creatures that I hunt and lock ME.. but I get my TM up to learning, at best, slaying the same number of creatures via magic. Doesn't matter if it's undead, or a regular critter.. whether I use HE, FF, HORN.. etc. The closest I've been able to move my TM is to stand and snap target/cast DR for about thirty minutes and it locks my TM.

Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? I haven't quested for FOU and I haven't picked up HH.. figured FOU probably isn't a good idea when I'm just under 400 PM, and I don't hunt undead actively enough to pick up HH. But if I have to do that to lock my TM without sitting in a class, I will.

Thanks in advance!

Find the highest level critter you can hunt that doesn't carry a shield and spam prep bolt/target/cast. That seems to work pretty well for me.

Seriously- don't tell me you are locking HX faster than TM? Flavius is HX primary and it just annoys me. It really depends but in the right circumstances I can move TM pretty fast- certainly faster than HX. FOU if you have the magics helps- but you don't yet- at least I don't think you do.

I used DR rather than bolt, and if you defenses are good enough that trains decently. I found I could train TM reasonably well on sky giants just using DR. If you give us an idea of what you are hunting we might be able to give more advice- I prefer to train TM by killing things- but that requires a pretty good gen of monsters that are high enough(and without shield) to do.

I use FF or Horn in combat (tortured souls usually). With FF I go with 30 mana, Horn usually 20-30 mana for kicks.

<If you give us an idea of what you are hunting we might be able to give more advice- I prefer to train TM by killing things- but that requires a pretty good gen of monsters that are high enough(and without shield) to do. >

Right now I'm mostly hunting in oshus. I'm sticking with the old fashioned way for now.. spamming DR on them until I get to locked (just takes a long while), and then killing them off with my weapons.

I've fiddled around with ur hhr'ziki (or whatever), death spirits, etc.. none of them are really moving my TM past learning (3/34).. only thing that has effectively moved my TM past learning was when I was doing the MF quest and I was killing off the fylgia with HORN.

Maybe I'll hop over to scorps and see if I can move TM.

Another area that I thought of that you might want to try out- Hib- the whole blighted forest area- you probably are up to Blight Ogre's but there is a very nice progression of undead beasties from creepers to ice adders- one of them should teach you TM well.