...But I like the Bard power levels. They're much more sensible.
You don't need to decipher musical muck. You're really only looking for one word just like other mana levels.
e.g.
You hear a soft, elusive (vague)
You hear a gentle (hazy)
You hear a piping (dimly flickering).
I don't know what FE you use, but you could adjust your toggles to highlight those words and it would become really easy. Honestly, how often are you ever going to see something more powerful then 'glowing' or 'shining' mana with any guild? You only need to memorize about 8 power levels in sequential order.
http://www.olwydd.org/guilds/bard/magic.php
It is easy to be brave from a safe distance.
-Aesop
DIMINISHEDANGEL
HULDAHS-PAL
Re: Power Perception
12/22/2006 01:50 PM CST
When Bard PP messaging first changed, there was a script going around that used the "old" terms for you.
This is the one I have:
put conc
match vague soft, elusive rhythm
match hazy gentle rhythm
match dimly piping rhythm
match flickering spriteful melody
match shimmer light-hearted, shimmering melody
match slowly soothing melody
match pulsating deep, pulsating beat
match quickly intense, pulsating beat
match faintly harmonic strains
match glowing strong, deep chords
match powerfully complex melodies
match softly cacophany of strident music
match shining blare of a full wind ensemble
match luminous myriad voices of woodwinds
match brilliant stringed instruments
match flaring quick burst of stacatto brass
match burning faint clash of sound
match brightly symphony of sonorous tones
match blazing flashy sequence of chords
match blinding deafening cacophany of sound resonating
matchwait
vague:
echo
echo Vague Power
echo
exit
hazy:
echo
echo Hazy Power
echo
exit
dimly:
echo
echo Dimly Flickering Power
echo
exit
flickering:
echo
echo Flickering Power
echo
exit
shimmer:
echo
echo Shimmering Power
echo
exit
slowly:
echo
echo Slowly Pulsating Power
echo
exit
pulsating:
echo
echo Pulsating Power
echo
exit
quickly:
echo
echo Quickly Pulsating Mana
echo
exit
faintly:
echo
echo Faintly Glowing Power
echo
exit
glowing:
echo
echo Glowing Power
echo
exit
powerfully:
echo
echo Powerfully Glowing Power
echo
exit
softly:
echo
echo Softly Shining Power
echo
exit
shining:
echo
echo Shining Power
echo
exit
luminous:
echo
echo Luminous Power
echo
exit
brilliant:
echo
echo Brilliant Power
echo
exit
flaring:
echo
echo Flaring Power
echo
exit
burning:
echo
echo Burning Power
echo
exit
brightly:
echo
echo Brightly Burning Power
echo
exit
blazing:
echo
echo Blazing Power
echo
exit
blinding:
echo
echo Blinding Power
echo
exit
___________________________
Garatu asks, "Greetings HULDAHS-PAL! I am GameHost Garatu and am here to answer your request for assistance. How can I help you today?"
Garatu exclaims, "Wow! I wish I was a bard!"
* Bards. Garatu knows their power! *
This is the one I have:
put conc
match vague soft, elusive rhythm
match hazy gentle rhythm
match dimly piping rhythm
match flickering spriteful melody
match shimmer light-hearted, shimmering melody
match slowly soothing melody
match pulsating deep, pulsating beat
match quickly intense, pulsating beat
match faintly harmonic strains
match glowing strong, deep chords
match powerfully complex melodies
match softly cacophany of strident music
match shining blare of a full wind ensemble
match luminous myriad voices of woodwinds
match brilliant stringed instruments
match flaring quick burst of stacatto brass
match burning faint clash of sound
match brightly symphony of sonorous tones
match blazing flashy sequence of chords
match blinding deafening cacophany of sound resonating
matchwait
vague:
echo
echo Vague Power
echo
exit
hazy:
echo
echo Hazy Power
echo
exit
dimly:
echo
echo Dimly Flickering Power
echo
exit
flickering:
echo
echo Flickering Power
echo
exit
shimmer:
echo
echo Shimmering Power
echo
exit
slowly:
echo
echo Slowly Pulsating Power
echo
exit
pulsating:
echo
echo Pulsating Power
echo
exit
quickly:
echo
echo Quickly Pulsating Mana
echo
exit
faintly:
echo
echo Faintly Glowing Power
echo
exit
glowing:
echo
echo Glowing Power
echo
exit
powerfully:
echo
echo Powerfully Glowing Power
echo
exit
softly:
echo
echo Softly Shining Power
echo
exit
shining:
echo
echo Shining Power
echo
exit
luminous:
echo
echo Luminous Power
echo
exit
brilliant:
echo
echo Brilliant Power
echo
exit
flaring:
echo
echo Flaring Power
echo
exit
burning:
echo
echo Burning Power
echo
exit
brightly:
echo
echo Brightly Burning Power
echo
exit
blazing:
echo
echo Blazing Power
echo
exit
blinding:
echo
echo Blinding Power
echo
exit
___________________________
Garatu asks, "Greetings HULDAHS-PAL! I am GameHost Garatu and am here to answer your request for assistance. How can I help you today?"
Garatu exclaims, "Wow! I wish I was a bard!"
* Bards. Garatu knows their power! *
SHYGOAT
Re: Power Perception
12/22/2006 01:54 PM CST
>Can we PLEASE go back to sensing room mana like everyone else? I absolutely hate having to decipher 4 lines of musical muck just and then have to translate/convert it to more conventional information. In the very least, make it a toggle so those of us that want to see plain and straight forward can.
It's not like other guilds see "You sense the mana level is at 14 out of 20". They see garbage like "dimly flickering" or "slowly pulsating". I don't know what that means. I know what ours means.
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It's not like other guilds see "You sense the mana level is at 14 out of 20". They see garbage like "dimly flickering" or "slowly pulsating". I don't know what that means. I know what ours means.
Aveda's Field Guide
http://dr.aveda.googlepages.com
Hot hot hot scripts, Antique P5 maps, a macro tutorial, training advice, and plenty of Bardly goodness.
Do you have the latest version of Reckus or Reckus NB? Newest update:11/29/2006
KINGC20
Re: Power Perception
12/22/2006 09:23 PM CST
"Can we PLEASE go back to sensing room mana like everyone else? I absolutely hate having to decipher 4 lines of musical muck just and then have to translate/convert it to more conventional information"
I dont know what other guilds see so I'd rather keep it the way it is since that is what I know
Thanks,
Kleis
I dont know what other guilds see so I'd rather keep it the way it is since that is what I know
Thanks,
Kleis
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Power Perception
12/22/2006 11:14 PM CST
Personally, I think every guild should have some sort of personalized PP message. What's the difference between shining and glowing, for example? Hard to know intrinsically. The Bard ones made the most sense to me. I'd like to see stuff like...
Rangers:
You feel the dull presence of life lurking in the background.
You sense a hazy presence of life mana sprouting like freshly-planted saplings.
You sense a warm cradle of life enveloping your senses.
You feel the overwhelming force of nature surrounding you like a warm blanket.
Warrior Mages:
The elemental mana in the area pulses like a dying candle.
The elemental mana carries faintly on the wind.
Etc etc. It would be really neat and give a little more definition to the individual use of mana, though I'm not sure how many people would be willing to rememorize mana levels for each guild (I would, it would be cool).
It is easy to be brave from a safe distance.
-Aesop
Rangers:
You feel the dull presence of life lurking in the background.
You sense a hazy presence of life mana sprouting like freshly-planted saplings.
You sense a warm cradle of life enveloping your senses.
You feel the overwhelming force of nature surrounding you like a warm blanket.
Warrior Mages:
The elemental mana in the area pulses like a dying candle.
The elemental mana carries faintly on the wind.
Etc etc. It would be really neat and give a little more definition to the individual use of mana, though I'm not sure how many people would be willing to rememorize mana levels for each guild (I would, it would be cool).
It is easy to be brave from a safe distance.
-Aesop
LUKKA
Re: Power Perception
12/25/2006 12:35 PM CST
Everyone, including bards used to see it the same way. All the flowery stuff is fine if we were given a choice. I happen to prefer it the old way and would love a toggle to do so.
RAZIAAR
Re: Power Perception
01/01/2007 08:56 PM CST
It took time, but I've gotten completely used to it. I rather like it.
TIKAMAE
Re: Power Perception
01/02/2007 10:06 AM CST
I love our power messaging. Its so pretty and it fits bards so well. I think the other guilds would want their own types of messages too. I usually even know what it means :) Its the other types that I dont understand.
~Sasa
~~Enty, I propose a Tunic that says "I reached 100 circle and all I got was this stupid tunic". Flavius
~Sasa
~~Enty, I propose a Tunic that says "I reached 100 circle and all I got was this stupid tunic". Flavius
LOFTONM1
Re: Power Perception
01/02/2007 04:17 PM CST
Basically the exact same thing, except our indicators are more adverby and full of lots of flowery text.
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
SAGESS
Re: Power Perception
01/04/2007 01:10 AM CST
I highlight key words in the messaging, bard and other guilds so I know how much mana is there. Low mana is in a dark red or purple color and as the mana gets better the colors go from red to orange to yellow to green.
That way I don't have to sit there and try to decipher the messages when I switch characters and all I have to do is look for a color. Works great for me.
~Little Bard
Donalisa says to Gylee, "love stinks"
Margrethe says to Donalisa, "You should bury them further from your window, or upwind or something."
That way I don't have to sit there and try to decipher the messages when I switch characters and all I have to do is look for a color. Works great for me.
~Little Bard
Donalisa says to Gylee, "love stinks"
Margrethe says to Donalisa, "You should bury them further from your window, or upwind or something."
LUCKYSEVENS
Re: Power Perception
01/04/2007 09:24 AM CST
I just made triggers that echo the standard power perception messaging for each corresponding bardic messaging. I still have NO idea what the bard messages mean!
GENT
GENT
SHYGOAT
Re: Power Perception
01/04/2007 01:27 PM CST
I recorded myself saying the words "one" through "twenty" and fixed each sound to a power perc messaging. That's worked out great for me.
Aveda's Field Guide
http://dr.aveda.googlepages.com
Hot hot hot scripts, Antique P5 maps, a macro tutorial, training advice, and plenty of Bardly goodness.
Do you have the latest version of Reckus or Reckus NB? Newest update:11/29/2006
Aveda's Field Guide
http://dr.aveda.googlepages.com
Hot hot hot scripts, Antique P5 maps, a macro tutorial, training advice, and plenty of Bardly goodness.
Do you have the latest version of Reckus or Reckus NB? Newest update:11/29/2006
AKERMAN
Re: Power Perception
01/04/2007 07:16 PM CST
>>I recorded myself saying the words "one" through "twenty" and fixed each sound to a power perc messaging. That's worked out great for me.
It's bard magic.
You should have sung them.
~Kashik
It's bard magic.
You should have sung them.
~Kashik
ALLGUILDS
Re: Power Perception
01/04/2007 10:29 PM CST
>>It's bard magic.
>>You should have sung them.
La la la la la la ooooone.... la la la la la la two.... la la la la la la three....
~Tantric, TF bard that loves to sing
You are Agonar's Best Friend Raydell D'Rougus, a Human Barbarian.
> ask agonar about best friend
Agonar glares at you, "I do not have time for idle chatter or nonsense. Make sense or begone!"
>You say, "Somethin' wrong here..."
>>You should have sung them.
La la la la la la ooooone.... la la la la la la two.... la la la la la la three....
~Tantric, TF bard that loves to sing
You are Agonar's Best Friend Raydell D'Rougus, a Human Barbarian.
> ask agonar about best friend
Agonar glares at you, "I do not have time for idle chatter or nonsense. Make sense or begone!"
>You say, "Somethin' wrong here..."
WMZILDJAN
Re: Power Perception
01/05/2007 04:16 PM CST
where have you been tantric?
Legendary Bard Mibe Oyiee, Dead Eye of Elanthia
~ You know I could always put it back to the old roundtimes...
Legendary Bard Mibe Oyiee, Dead Eye of Elanthia
~ You know I could always put it back to the old roundtimes...
ALLGUILDS
Re: Power Perception
01/06/2007 02:38 AM CST
>where have you been tantric?
I took an almost 2 year hiatus. I didn't play anything as far as MMO's go for about a year and a half, then I started playing WoW... and I decided I wanted to play a real game and came back.
Probably will start Tantric up again soon, as soon as I find all my scripts. I am not rewriting them.
~Lord Bard Tantric
Sis ut sanus amo a indoles , narro quispiam in Latin.
I took an almost 2 year hiatus. I didn't play anything as far as MMO's go for about a year and a half, then I started playing WoW... and I decided I wanted to play a real game and came back.
Probably will start Tantric up again soon, as soon as I find all my scripts. I am not rewriting them.
~Lord Bard Tantric
Sis ut sanus amo a indoles , narro quispiam in Latin.
LOFTONM1
Re: Power Perception
01/08/2007 09:10 PM CST
speaking of Power Perception, did Bards ever get that second way to learn it like Dart hinted at in 2005?
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
DR-DARTENIAN
Re: Power Perception
01/08/2007 10:18 PM CST
Yes and no.
I know that's confusing, but that's the honest answer. The more clear answer is that the mechanics are live and have been for years, but they are lacking sorting background support. I'm working on getting that done, but some resource issues need to be dealt with first.
It's comin'!
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
I know that's confusing, but that's the honest answer. The more clear answer is that the mechanics are live and have been for years, but they are lacking sorting background support. I'm working on getting that done, but some resource issues need to be dealt with first.
It's comin'!
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
BEVERAGEK
Re: Power Perception
01/09/2007 04:29 AM CST
>>It's comin'!
Score!
Will this second way enable us to train it while in combat(in other words, where we don't have to powerWALK)?
~The one who is obsessed with power.
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Score!
Will this second way enable us to train it while in combat(in other words, where we don't have to powerWALK)?
~The one who is obsessed with power.
__
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LOFTONM1
Re: Power Perception
01/17/2007 06:45 PM CST
>>Will this second way enable us to train it while in combat(in other words, where we don't have to powerWALK)?
I'm guessing it might be those divining (dowsing?) rods charlatans use to find water. Sounds flashy enough for us, at least, and PP training aside it'd even double as a proper RP prop.
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
I'm guessing it might be those divining (dowsing?) rods charlatans use to find water. Sounds flashy enough for us, at least, and PP training aside it'd even double as a proper RP prop.
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
WMZILDJAN
Re: Power Perception
01/17/2007 06:52 PM CST
Tuning forks anyone?
Legendary Bard Mibe Oyiee, Dead Eye of Elanthia
~ You know I could always put it back to the old roundtimes...
Legendary Bard Mibe Oyiee, Dead Eye of Elanthia
~ You know I could always put it back to the old roundtimes...
DR-DARTENIAN
Re: Power Perception
01/17/2007 08:22 PM CST
Will it let you learn in combat? Under most situations, no, although it could possibly be used that way. I'm of the opinion we tie far too much to combat these days, and we need to start looking for cool and fun things outside combat as well. Only then can our plan for Bardic Global Domination be successful, as we are equally adept at both!
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
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- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
BEVERAGEK
Re: Power Perception
01/18/2007 04:10 PM CST
>>Under most situations, no, although it could possibly be used that way. I'm of the opinion we tie far too much to combat these days, and we need to start looking for cool and fun things outside combat as well.
<<
But... right now we have a way to train PP outside of combat, so the only other alternative is... in combat I thought? I mean, if someone's going to stand still and train PP with RT(which is what I am assuming the new way will do, unless it's like pyramids where we absorb exp by osmosis), we might as well just move a room and perceive to train the skill that way. Unless you give PP more training capability, what would be the point of this release? Just to give us pretty messaging, or let us not have to type in a room direction to train Power Perceive?
~The one who is obsessed with power.
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<<
But... right now we have a way to train PP outside of combat, so the only other alternative is... in combat I thought? I mean, if someone's going to stand still and train PP with RT(which is what I am assuming the new way will do, unless it's like pyramids where we absorb exp by osmosis), we might as well just move a room and perceive to train the skill that way. Unless you give PP more training capability, what would be the point of this release? Just to give us pretty messaging, or let us not have to type in a room direction to train Power Perceive?
~The one who is obsessed with power.
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LOFTONM1
Re: Power Perception
01/18/2007 04:29 PM CST
>>Unless you give PP more training capability, what would be the point of this release? Just to give us pretty messaging, or let us not have to type in a room direction to train Power Perceive?
Options are nice, especially if they end up teaching more than PP (as I would hope divining rods would--FOCUS for MD skill, giving us a PP readout for PP experience as well.)
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
Options are nice, especially if they end up teaching more than PP (as I would hope divining rods would--FOCUS for MD skill, giving us a PP readout for PP experience as well.)
J'Lo, no that other one
The Manipulation List -- http://symphaena.com/index.html
DR-DARTENIAN
Re: Power Perception
01/18/2007 08:04 PM CST
> Options are nice, especially if they end up teaching more than PP (as I would hope divining rods would--FOCUS for MD skill, giving us a PP readout for PP experience as well.)
It is basically just another option, and the only reasons I'm doing it are (a) it's very cool, and (b) it's already live and has been for years. The only problem is that it has no support, and do to resource issues I can't add any at the moment. However, a fix to something else will address that issue, and I'll finally be able to get the necessary support added.
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
It is basically just another option, and the only reasons I'm doing it are (a) it's very cool, and (b) it's already live and has been for years. The only problem is that it has no support, and do to resource issues I can't add any at the moment. However, a fix to something else will address that issue, and I'll finally be able to get the necessary support added.
- GM Dartenian
"You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - Al Jolson
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dartenian/
BEVERAGEK
Re: Power Perception
01/19/2007 04:08 AM CST
Ahh, well, kudos on the cool factor. Guess those have to count. I'll keep on dreaming on functionality in combat though.
Thanks Dart, keep doin' what yer doin'.
~The one who is obsessed with power.
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http://drleilond.tripod.com - The Story
drleilond.tripod.com/Guild_Requirements.xls - Personal Bard Guild Req Sheet
Thanks Dart, keep doin' what yer doin'.
~The one who is obsessed with power.
__
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http://drleilond.tripod.com - The Story
drleilond.tripod.com/Guild_Requirements.xls - Personal Bard Guild Req Sheet
