Today, the delightful Halfling Bardess Shia walked.

Before she walked she left all her possessions on the Crossing Bard Guild shelf.

During that afternoon, a succession of "novice" bards grabbed a bunch of her stuff each, ran out of the room and logged off in front of Katrinai and I over a period of an hour or so. Neither of us have seen so many novice bards walk into the bard guild like that on a quiet afternoon. I theorized that they might all share the same mind, but who knows.

One person who did this was Excitement. Once she grabbed a bunch of stuff, I asked her if she would take some things out of the containers and put them back on the shelf for other Bards to have. She put three things back on the shelf and immediately logged.

Then Harlehafarle came, took stuff, left, and logged.

Then Glow came, took stuff, left, and logged.

I had stuck their names on my highlights to see the pattern of logging in and logging off. Glow logged in for a few minutes and then left. Then Harle logged in. Then Excitement logged in and ran out of the Bard Guild before I could have a word with her. I run out the Bard guild and see her joining Harle's group and then they ran. Being the already steamed up one after watching an hour of this go on to Shia's remains, I shot Excitement but didn't exactly expect her to die in one hit. She dies and I get jailed. I got out of jail and tried to find Excitement in game but couldn't find her. I didn't see her log out, so I ran to Tenderfoot Inn. There was Excitement all rerolled up as Amarian wearing the same thing as Excitement.

I had a chat with her and told her my reason for shooting at her and how I felt about her grabbing most of Shia's stuff on the shelf. She said that it didn't matter because she didn't have the items anymore. I pointed out the fact that she was wearing all of Excitement's stuff. She apparently didn't realize that. Is this believable or not? I don't know. I asked her if she was willing to put most of it back onto the shelf and keep a few items for herself. She then said something how I shouldn't have killed her for that.

You know. She has a point, but Shia's been a friend of mine for years and years. It really burns me to watch someone do that to her items.

I told her that I didn't like seeing a bunch of newly rolled up bards take stuff from the shelf and just run off. Amarian said that Harle was merely a friend and not her. I'll concede to that because it could very well be the truth. Maybe it's a group effort of two instead of one?

Anyways, Amarian then runs out and I can't find her again so I decide to drop the issue and just return to the Bard guild. Amarian then rerolled herself into someone else whose name I don't know because I didn't bother to find out.

So to Excitement/Amarian/Who knows who..

Take stuff off the shelf if you will, but don't take twenty items at once. And if you want to take the stuff, wear it proudly. Don't reroll your characters because you're afraid that someone knows your name. Sell dead Shia's items if you want for coin. Just know this.. Shia was far better a person than you seem to be. Maybe her items will have a positive effect on you.

Shenney

She seemed satisfied with her decision. She told me she was happy with it, she wanted to leave. Wasn't willing to put account on stasis, so I guess its her decision and it was what she wanted. I refused to take any of her items, as I don't like taking items of friends who are leaving, but it pisses me off to see some newbies all of the same person(no doubt) take em all just to likely get rich quick. It'll take great restraint for me not to kill them over and over again as I see them and risk lockout.

Troubadour Raziaar

"If there is no God as you say, then in the end I lose nothing. But if there is a God like I say, in the end you lose everything."

Shelf harvesters.

That's a great word for it. I really really loathe shelf harvesters. Especially in the Bard guild since most bards are pretty good about taking things from the shelf. They might take some neat objects, but they always donate what they can too. I know I've taken quite a few things off the shelf, but whenever I'm vault cleaning or find something neat that isn't really me, I try to donate to the shelf.

It's just easier to give something straight to a novice you know I guess.

Shenney

I only ever really take items off of it that struck me as neat. Little novelty items to me. Last thing I took off was a small pirate doll. And that was a LONG time ago. Being a pirate is a broken dream of mine :-P

And Kystrk, if you did that... you SUCK. More so than you already do, and hereby considered a form of life lower than dirt.

Troubadour Raziaar

"If there is no God as you say, then in the end I lose nothing. But if there is a God like I say, in the end you lose everything."

>Not unless you suddenly developed a huge fetish for girl clothing and dolls.

He looks really cute in his pink pinafore, with the gingham checked apron.

:P

Kystryk is a pretty, pretty princess.


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If I reminded everyone that I had only one y in my name, it would just make people spell it wrong more, wouldn't it?


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Hello everybody. My name is Kystrk, and...I have a problem.

I can't spell your name, thats why it's highlighted in game.

Regardless.

You're still a pretty pretty princess. <3.




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>Jaebom --is it really that hard to tell the difference between m and rn when the font has a FIXED WIDTH?!

I'd say that depends on what font the person is using for their front end :) I know I don't used the standard fixedsys font and haven't for years now.


~Azimee Ta'Shiza
~Gypsy Songbird
~Tinbird In Training

An in-character look at plat:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/azimee/

<< No one can ever spell my name right. And I'm not quite sure why.>>

people can't spell there (their, they're) right, so don't feel bad. My name gets slaughtered all the time. The worst is Mckatelle - I feel like a McDonald's burger. Mooooooooo.

McKatelee

~~And music with its silver sound shall swiftly rend redress~

Will always be Mckatelee in my eyes :-)

Troubadour Raziaar

The best bet for anyone who truly wants to donate items to younger players is to drop it in the chute at Jadewater Mansion. I can't tell you how, but just know that it's just more efficient that way.

Mentor Larzul VonMarn

"That's the most foul and cruel-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!" - Tim the Enchanter

Normally though, the Bard guild honestly doesn't have a problem with the donation shelf. The young bards know that the shelf is there for them and they use it when they need it. It's definitely out of the ordinary for us to get hit by a shelf harvester, and I'm guessing it's only because there was a lot of expensive, rare stuff there. Most bards who hang around the guild are happy to be generous with novices too, if they see that the novice really needs it and isn't too lazy to hunt. Plus, unlike the donation chute at Jadewater, the shelf is open to bards of all levels. Just because you're 20th circle doesn't mean that you might not want to grab something off the shelf once in a while. You use the shelf less when you circle more, but there's always those once in a while times when you see something really nifty. It just comes with the understanding that you donate what items you can as you get older too.

Shenney

I dont think the problem here is higher circle bards. Most definately not. We have alot of honorable people, everyone I know pretty much is. I think it has to do with throwaway characters. I think there shouldnt be a circle max, but rather a circle minimum for grabbing stuff off the shelf, just so someone at least has some development in their character. Until then they could always ask an elder for something off the shelf <shrug> it wouldn't be a high circle or anything.

Troubadour Raziaar

It's easy enough to roll up a novice to take items off the shelf to sell if you wanna think of it that way. Most bards who actually hang around the guild aren't the type to sell stuff off the shelf anyways. It's just not that type of guild. Rangers might have that problem as well as other guilds, but bards tend not to.

Shenney

I agree that the shelves shouldn't have a maximum requirement on them. It would be rather embarassing for a higher circle bard, who accidentally put their favorite instrument on the shelf because they were tired/fogged/not thinking and then have to ask a novice to retrieve it for them. Granted, it would be funny to watch, but I'm forgetful, and I know it would be my luck to have that happen to me.

~Achrennight
"Sweet desert rose
Each of her veils, a secret promise
This desert flower
No sweet perfume ever tortured me more than this"

Perhaps having another area for placing items that would be closed to novice bards. Maybe an instrument cabinet needing a key that Silvy would bestow on the bard that reached a pre-determined level. I've seen the shelves get looted in the past and it always made me angry at the greed that others displayed. It's just plain tacky. I've kept things in my vault and given them to younger bards I felt deserved them. Sometimes this worked, and sometimes it didn't. I certainly hope Amarian, etal is proud of being selfish and inconsiderate of other novice bards.

Khestryl