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ILLIENA

Oddity with Balm 06/13/2015 09:54 AM CDT

So this happened a few times when I tried to cast Alb, all when I was prepping at cap:
Your attempt to weave so many different types of matrices together collapses and dissipates without warning.

I checked that I wasn't using a symbiosis, not that it should have mattered, since Alb is pure debil.

Then I tried casting it at min, and that worked. And then I was able to cast it again at max. Kodius mentioned there might be combat oddities from his Shaping rollout, but would that cause this?

VOLCANUS

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Re: Oddity with Balm 06/13/2015 11:08 AM CDT

> I checked that I wasn't using a symbiosis, not that it should have mattered,

I'm now seeing the same thing. Cast, cast area, and cast creatures all fail when I had the strengthen symbiosis on.

Now I have absolutely no problem with allowing some cyclics to work with symbiosis.

> since Alb is pure debil.

It's not. Discern alb

> > It requires the Utility and Debilitation skills to cast effectively.

ILLIENA

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Re: Oddity with Balm 06/13/2015 01:13 PM CDT

> It's not. Discern alb

Oh, huh. Well, again, I wasn't using a symbiosis, so that shouldn't matter.

VOLCANUS

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Re: Oddity with Balm 06/13/2015 01:14 PM CDT

> Oh, huh. Well, again, I wasn't using a symbiosis, so that shouldn't matter.

I didn't mean to sound contradictory (although I see how it read like I did). I'm just pointing out that it's a debil/util hybrid.

You're right that this shouldn't matter with symbiosis (not that there's anything wrong with a symbiosis cyclic - nudge nudge).

NIKPACK

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Re: Oddity with Balm 06/15/2015 09:03 AM CDT

I like this one: http://textbasedshame.livejournal.com/26130.html

Nikpack

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