>if you keep your combats in line with it, you can sort of train it in combat,

I'm curious how you do it. I sometimes do it by putting up Sanctuary in combat and making a safe zone.

>On an unrelated note, more of you guys should come and participate at spar events.

I have thought about it. It's tough breaking that wall of inertia though. I'm not particularly high circle (which I know is okay but nobody likes to feel like the little guy), and also I don't want to look like a total idiot for not knowing what I'm doing.

>I'm surprised to hear people say Performance is a drag to train - if you keep your combats in line with it, you can sort of train it in combat, and otherwise, it's just spending some time with an instrument. Compared to all the other guild skills, it's pretty easy. You can train magics while you're playing, or at worst if you don't have a weather proof instrument, you can train Utility with Care. And it's weaponized with SCREAM CONC.

I wouldn't call performance a guild skill, and I dislike training it on any character. I just find it boring to train and with little practical use, but I'm not a huge fan of fluff skills. Being able to play a flawless concerto IG just isn't terribly exciting to me. It might be more fun to train performance if it did other stuff but I can't think of a good niche that isn't already filled by a spell.

Regarding the concussive scream, my understanding was that it was going to become based on another skill in the future, TM I believe.

>Regarding the concussive scream, my understanding was that it was going to become based on another skill in the future, TM I believe.

The discussion that I recall was basically that screams were going away and scream concussive would become a pre-cast TM spell similar to Blufmor Garaen.

This is from the 2013 Bard meeting. Full log here: https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Post:09_Apr_13_Bard_Guild_Meeting_Log_-_04/10/2013_-_11:56


Raesh says, "Screams are going to become a spell called Thunderous Voice."

Raesh says, "Which is going to be a... sort of Dragon's Breath like spell."

Raesh says, "That's the best way to think of it."

Raesh says, "It'll do a lot of what it does now, but it will be TM based."

Raesh says, "So you'll put up Thunderous Voice."

Raesh says, "And while it's on you if you get stunned it'll fire off what's basically defiance now."

Raesh says, "And break the stun and burn a charge."

Raesh says, "Or you can scream at people and burn a charge for damage."

Raesh says, "The current plans it that there will be metaspells that will enable some other screams beyond those two - possible an AoE or something like that."

Raesh says, "Details on those metaspells aren't pinned down."

> That's still, generally, the idea. We need to figure out what we actually want Bardic Lore doing however. I'm not terribly happy with a lot of the original plans now that we've had a few more years of game evolution, 3.0, 3.1 and a lot more experience under my belt.

Can I also request that if these become spells due to the ease of creation, can we make them zero slot spells or meta spells automatically granted/quested at the appropriate circle? At least then they'd feel more like abilities rather than spells.

As this is no longer about a bug, or teaching and more a discussion on spells, let's move the discussion over to a more appropriate topic and end it here.
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> also does the same for the loss of pulses for Faenella's grace.

You mean the special messaging when it speeds up a pulse? Because it's still speeding up pulses.

Oh.
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::still is mildly displeased about the lack of teaching random things in combat. Was one way she got into groups.::

I'm talking pre circle 50 here. People loved my teaching and use of Lilt, as I could teach things that they could not normally do in combat. Like first aid, something NOONE likes to train.