An ability should not be based off of how easy/difficult a skill is capable of being trained.

If your beef is with how many Vocals ranks a Bard has then argue that and don't try and skew screams because of how you feel about Vocals.

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>An ability should not be based off of how easy/difficult a skill is capable of being trained.

>If your beef is with how many Vocals ranks a Bard has then argue that and don't try and skew screams because of how you feel about Vocals.

One, that's a naive point. Two, my beef is more with the nature of the skill itself. Three, it doesn't matter what I think, my opinion doesn't count.

Please keep it on topic.

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>One, that's a naive point. Two, my beef is more with the nature of the skill itself.

Other posters are trying to have a discussion with you. If you explained your point better and actually discussed the points they bring up it would help. If you just want to vent rather than discuss that's okay, but there is a forum for compliants.

>Three, it doesn't matter what I think, my opinion doesn't count.

Why are you even bothering to post then?

>>>no one noticed the typo when you lose the contest
>>I did and I liked it
>I meant the GMs responsible for it's release. In their testing, they must not have missed very often. I find that telling.

I BUGGED 3 typos last week. It's nothing new in Dragonrealms and I consider it highly unfair to the GMs to de-value their work simply because they missed some spelling issues.

Finally, nothing is forever in Dragonrealms. Abilities and spells that are judged to be "fine" one week may be up for changes in a year or even a month. If you play in Fallen I could see how you could be upset that Bards have received an ability you consider is overpowered. If you play in Prime or Plat, how does this hurt you?

- Tathlenia and player.

Any chance on moving this to Sunday night? Thanks.

Drat. Also a bad time for me. But yay for logs!

Players. due to recent events. Abilities are not on the menu.

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* Malik was just struck down!

I wanted to chime in and say that I really appreciate the earlier times, since I'm in bed by 8 EST. I rarely get to go to events, so I'll be looking forward to this one!

Yes that works great for me! Hopefully I can add something since I was also there the whole time. Looking forward to it :-)


- Terra

you just want them all lined up to start the mammoth drops......

Unfortunately that is the one Saturday night i would not be able to make it, as i will be camping, pleas post a log!

Regards,
Vteec

Logs?

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I'm really sorry I missed both of the meetings (the one held by Siltoth and the unofficial one). I thought I'd be able to play from work, but it got fairly busy.

Can't wait to read the summary and/or log.


- Terra

Here's the first part of the meeting - the part held in Razzer's home. I'll have the rest later on as it takes me time to edit it.

I've been bringing in a couple more people so the tiniest bit in the beginning is missing.

[Razzer's Home]
Walls of polished oak and a golden oak jigsaw pattern floor covered by a rich-hued fine lambswool carpet enclose this small room. In one corner lies a massive black oak canopy bed, and near the bed sits a gilded oak heartwood table with a grey-green mistwood celestina harp adorned with jade acanthus leaves and a plump copper-trimmed fishbowl on it. An elaborately carved marble fireplace burns along the far wall. The room holds a strong scent of rum toddies. You also see a stub-tailed swamp cat, a copper-edged laurelwood door, a platinum gilt maple weapon rack with a couple of things on it, a carved bone armor stand with a couple of things on it, a woodbin and an overstuffed maroon leather armchair.
Also here: Iasaal, Nisonin, True Bard Razzer, Honorable Ohdalay who is sitting, Rezzian, War Drummer Hivosh who is sitting, Macluffin, Klon Amachi Eoworfinia who is sitting on a massive black oak canopy bed and Lord of Lyrics Omdelle who is sitting.
Obvious exits: none.

>Omdelle raises his hand.

>Omdelle grumbles.

>Razzer says, "Were the bards present, Jappal was there, and Marsai, a few others."

>Omdelle clears his throat.

Omdelle raises his hand.

>You whisper to Iasaal, "you missed just the slight beginning, we were going over recent events regarding Ezruh's death"

>Razzer says, "We got Ezruh raised, then it got even stranger, with visions of Ezrhu seeking the Fist."

>Iasaal nods to you.

>Iasaal whispers, "I am certain I will catch up."

>Omdelle nods.

>Razzer says, "When we figgered out where the Fist was, got a group to protect Ezruh, and headed to the Pally guild in Hib."
> * G'nar Pethian Skyrook joins the adventure.

>Hivosh appears to be concentrating intently on something.

>Hivosh stands up.

>Hivosh peers out the window.

>Razzer says, "Was a bit of a problem getting the Ellie's tomb, her realy tomb that is."

>Razzer says, "But we all gathered there, where more odd things happened."

>A stub-tailed swamp cat stands up.

>Omdelle nods to Razzer.

>Razzer says, "This now involves a renegade palliden named Oean, and some secret the pally council does not want it's members to know."

>Razzer says, "We were standing around the tomb discussiog this, when out of nowhere a figgure appeard, and told us that some of the folks gathered there would be given more information."

>Razzer says, "Upon which we left the guild, gathered outside."

>Razzer says, "Ezruh went into hiding, we came home."

>Razzer asks, "Omdelle, you have anything to add?"

>Omdelle says, "Yes I do."

>Omdelle stands up.

>Omdelle clears his throat.

>Omdelle says, "Iwas in the guildhall, practicing........."

>Omdelle says, "There was a most terrible sound that came from Ezruhs office."

>Razzer rests his hand fondly on the cat's head, and she half-closes her eyes, purring softly.

>You frown.

>Omdelle says, "I ran the only to find him dead."

>Omdelle sobs.

>Nisonin studies the faces around her.

>Omdelle says, "Many came quickly as the word spread around by the gweth."

>A stub-tailed swamp cat sits down.

>Omdelle says, "When I spoke with him just after, he said this, "I do not know at all what has happened."

>Razzer says, "Teaching ME here."

>Omdelle says, "I then helped him into the protective shelter of the main Foyer."

>Omdelle says, "Incase the hooded figure returned."

>Omdelle says, "From then the visions came and we all made the trip to Hib."

>Razzer says, "I seem to recall Ezruh said he was hit with a 'fear' spell."

>Omdelle says, "I myself did not go into the inner sanctum of the Pally Guild, but did some exploring on my own outside and joined the group when they came out."

>Omdelle nods to Razzer.

>Rezzian asks Razzer, "Before he was killed?"

>Eoworfinia says, "Oh, they didn't explore all of that inner sanctum by the way."

>Razzer says, "If 'fear' spells are operational now."

>Omdelle says, "He was Purged by The Hounds of Rulithor."

>Razzer says, "Most of us were just amazed we got to the real tomb."

>Razzer nods to Eoworfinia.

>Eoworfinia says, "There was another area, a paladin told me."

>Omdelle says, "He was not able to do what they were asking of him so they purged him."

>Omdelle clears his throat.

>Eoworfinia says, "Weapons were exchanged in that room, he siad."

>Razzer ponders.

>Razzer shrugs.

>A stub-tailed swamp cat stretches out on the jigsaw pattern floor.

>Razzer says, "Internal pally business."

>You've gained a new rank in using heavy edged weapons.

>Omdelle shakes his head.

>Omdelle says, "I can perhaps clarify some of that."

>Razzer says, "Since there has been no guidance from our guild."

>Rezzian says to Razzer, "The fear spell is interesting, the necro tachid used one on me."

>Omdelle says, "The fist was or is Ellie's weapon and has a Tomb of it's own."

>Razzer asks, "Ahh, did it freeze you in place?"

>Rezzian nods to Razzer.

>Razzer directs a curious meow at Rezzian.

>Rezzian says, "It did."

>Your mind hears Lisae thinking, "Is it too late to go to the bard meeting?"

>Razzer says, "I got hit with one in the foyer of the guild."

>Omdelle says, "From what I know that Onan fellow or whatever his name is, either tried to or did steal it."

>Razzer says, "OK all of you remember to chant redemers pride if there's fear spells in use."

>Razzer chuckles.

>Rezzian chuckles at Razzer.

>Rezzian says, "Oh yeah that will help."

>Rezzian leans on Razzer.

>Your mind hears Omdelle thinking, "Lisae not at all, know where Uncle Razzer lives?"

>A stub-tailed swamp cat stands up.

>A stub-tailed swamp cat jumps up on the oak canopy bed, then proceeds to make herself comfortable.

>Your mind hears Lisae thinking, "No"

>Razzer says, "Now, what are we going to do about this, I think it's one great RP oppourtunity."

>You blink.

>Omdelle says, "May I be excused to go and get Lisae."

>Omdelle smiles.

>Razzer nods to Omdelle.

>Razzer rattles the handle of the door.

>Omdelle opens the door.

>Omdelle walks through the door.

>You raise your hand.

>Razzer says, "Yes."

>Razzer directs a curious meow at you.

>Your mind hears Omdelle thinking, "Meet me at the Dry Goods Lisae."

>say, "If I may add a few things."

>You arch your eyebrow.

>You say, "I've managed to gather a few more details on the incident."

>Iasaal gazes at you.

>You say, "Ezruh's purging is believes to be due to his connection with the renegade Paladin Oane, I will touch on that in a few moments."

>A sharp rapping sound comes from the door!

>A stub-tailed swamp cat leaps up, hissing at the laurelwood door.

>Razzer opens the door.

>You say, "Apperantly Oane has been dealing with some things the paladin guild sees as heretic."

>Hivosh closes the door.

>Hivosh opens the door.

>Hivosh ducks his head.

>Omdelle walks in the door.

>Razzer chuckles.

>Hivosh whistles a merry tune.

>Lisae walks in the door.

>Omdelle takes a seat.

>Lisae says, "Nice digs."

>Razzer says, "Howdy Lisae."

>Lisae smiles.

>Razzer closes the door.

>Omdelle smiles at Lisae.

>Lisae says, "Hi."

>Razzer purrs happily in Lisae's general direction.

>A stub-tailed swamp cat cleans her paws energetically.

>You say, "Specifically, knowledge or something of the sort regarding an evil unleashed a long time ago by the dragon priests."

>Lisae takes a seat.

>You say, "Apperantly, the first paladin council, or group, used something that is called "the bonding" to stop that evil."

>Omdelle says to you, "I don't think so, this is something totally new."

>You nod.

>Omdelle asks, "Does anyone know about the goings on in crossings about Necromancers?"

>You say to Omdelle, "Maybe I'm repeating something known, but I believe I may have some new things."

>Omdelle says, "Are floks that help them getting arrested foraiding and abeting necromancersw/."

>A stub-tailed swamp cat scratches at the laurelwood door.

>Razzer scoops the swamp cat up into his arms and hugs her tightly, but she wriggles from Razzer's arms and jumps back down onto the floor.

>Omdelle ponders.

>You say, "From what I understood from Terra, the tomb itself was ment to be revealed when it was constructed, in fact, it may not even be a real tomb."

>You scratch your head.

>Omdelle nods to you.

>Lisae grins at Rezzian.

>You say, "At anyway, what's important from my perspective is not the paladin history or what is that evil, or what was done or who this oane is."

>Your mind hears Razzer thinking, "'Terra want to come join us?"

>Omdelle says, "Exactly."

>You say, "I was very distraught to learn of what happened here in Riverhaven in our guildhall."

>Lisae grins.

>Omdelle says, "Why was Ezruh Purged in the first place."

>You say, "Whatever your feeling of Ezruh is, and I've met some who have reservations..."

>A stub-tailed swamp cat sits down, sniffing at the jigsaw pattern floor.

>Omdelle says, "We all know that he was or is not a Necromancer."

>Your mind hears Constanctina thinking, "razzer where is you house at"

>Razzer says, "How come the bard guild is part of this? Jappal thinks that from now on it's going to be a pally quest."

>You say, "A bard guildleader was killed in his study in our guild by the hounds, without any evidence to wrong doing presented to the guild that anyone knows of."

>Omdelle nods at you, obviously agreeing with your views.

>Lisae asks, "And what happened to Simon?"

>Lisae pulls her hair.

>You say, "I find that unacceptable."

>You say to Lisae, "Simon is missing."

>Lisae says, "Constanctina is looking for your house."

>Hivosh says, "The necromancer in Crossing is looking for information on how an empath killed Lyras. Someone told her that the empath that did it resides in Shard."

>A sharp rapping sound comes from the door!

>A stub-tailed swamp cat leaps up, hissing at the laurelwood door.

>Razzer says, "And no uproar from the other guildleaders that one of thier own was murdered."

>Omdelle says, "It is unacceptable and Ezruh himself does not have a clue to why it happened."

>Razzer opens the door.

>You say, "I find that an insult and believe it's time we do something about it."

>Constanctina walks in the door.

>Constanctina takes a seat.

>Razzer smiles coni

>Razzer closes the door.

>Constanctina smiles.

>Omdelle smiles at Constanctina.

>Razzer asks, "But what will we do?"

>Constanctina waves to Omdelle.

>Hivosh asks, "Scream?"

>Nisonin says, "Just because you do not see the reaction does not mean there was no reaction."

>Razzer says, "That's what I would realy like to find out."

>Macluffin says, "Lets purge the necro guild leader."

>Omdelle says, "I say we search the lands for any clues that might lead to answers."

>You say, "If one our our leaders was killed by a dragon follower we'd all be up in arms by now, so at the very least we should demand our guildleaders start by protesting to the people in control of those hounds, and as far as I'm concerned that is the cleric guild."

>Omdelle nods at you, obviously agreeing with your views.

>Rezzian asks, "Do they control the hounds though?"

>Razzer says, "'OK, we can bitch at Tasdrean, Silvy, and the rest."

>Omdelle says, "I think that Karovass was onto something, that is why he was held captive by the Priests in the first place."

>Lisae says, "Are you sure you want the bards to feel the wrath of any guild? We're at a slight disadvantage in combat."

>Nisonin says to Lisae, "Speak for yourself."

>Razzer says, "I think we want information more."

>Eoworfinia coughs.

>Lisae gets a finely woven cloth of whiskey colored silk edged in bronze and black from inside her scribe's pack.

>Rezzian grins at Lisae.

>Lisae expertly dries her whiskey jug.

>Lisae wrings out a wet colored cloth, water dribbling down her hands to splash at her feet.

>You ask, "From what I understand, the hounds are part of the inquisition, and that was commissioned by the high priestess wasn't it?"

>Omdelle says, "Diplomacy may be one way to obtain more information."

>A stub-tailed swamp cat scratches at the laurelwood door.

>Omdelle says, "Only use force as a final alternative."

>Iasaal gives Omdelle a slight nod.

>You say, "I'm not asking anyone to go up in arms, but if we simply let it go, we'll just be showing everyone that the bard guild can be treated however they wish it to be treated."

>Razzer says, "I see no way for us to use force against any guildleader."

>Eoworfinia folds her arms across her chest.

>Omdelle nods at you, obviously agreeing with your views.

>Iasaal says, "There is little to gain from attracting negative attention."

>Hivosh asks, "Is the high priestess talking of the incident? If she sent them to Ezruh?"

>You shrug.

>A stub-tailed swamp cat jumps up on the oak canopy bed, then proceeds to make herself comfortable.

>Razzer says, "We know Oane is declared renegade by the pally council, with orders to all pallys to kill on sight."

>Hivosh says, "If they're acting on their own accord now then perhaps the Hounds themselves need purging."

>Omdelle says, "I think that Siltoth is correct in saying , something has to be done here."

>Omdelle says, "Just what exactly is why we are here."

>Omdelle tries to stand and fails.

>Omdelle stands up.

>Razzer asks, "Now what, we badger our guildleader to cry havoc and leash the hounds?"

>Omdelle ponders.

>Omdelle takes a seat.

>Hivosh says to Razzer, "Use the weapon of drink."

>Omdelle grins.

>Hivosh says, "Drink lips let secrets slip."

>You say, "No, but I say we ask them to show leadership and show that this guild has as much spine as any else, let it be known that we do not tolerate meddling in our own affair this way."

>Razzer says, "This is the crux of this meeting, just what do we do abouth this."

>Hivosh blushes a bright red color.

>Hivosh says, "Drunk ones too."

>You say, "I'd like to see what would happen if someone dared kill a warrior mage guildleader..."

>Iasaal asks, "May I ask, do we know what this assassin asked Ezruh to do?"

>Omdelle asks, "Has everyone seen the history of what happened on that day?"

>Constanctina says, "Asked him to keep quiet."

>Omdelle says, "Perhaps we should go there Uncle."

>Iasaal nods to Constanctina.

>Razzer says, "We can."

>Razzer opens the door.

>Omdelle says, "So all can see for themselves."

>Rezzian says, "A cloaked figure in plate with a broadsword killed Ezruh, how you cant know who whacks you with a broadsword is amazing."

>Razzer says, "Everyone OUT."

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* Malik was just struck down!

Just in case those who may be interested haven't been keeping up on the Paladin forums, there's going to be a meeting tonight to discuss the events surrounding all the strange and ominous visions that Paladins have been having in connection with Oane and all that good stuff - including the killing of Ezruh a while back.


From the Paladin forums post:

When: This Friday, Feb 11th, 10:30 pm EST

What: Meeting concerning Oane

Where: Crossing, Paladin Guild, Paladin Meeting Hall

Why: To discuss Oane

Agenda:

Intro
Speaker to bring us up to date (Katt, you up for this again?)
Open forum

Madigan

Hadn't realized it was a Paladin only meeting. At least until I got there and was told as such. Ah, well. Logs it is.

There's a log of it here:
http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=20&category=30&topic=3&message=13198

Sorry, it's a little long. But there's definitely stuff that's Bard related. Would love to have Katt talk to one/any of you knowledgeable about the events related in that log.

~Katt

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A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!

Paladins have started seeing/feeling lots of strange things again. Visions of hounds, cloaked figures just out of our vision, sixth sense being set off, etc. Seems like we can expect more to come. From an OOC perspective we wanted to give people who hadn't had a chance to be involved or read the logs to have the IG background. From an IC point of view, lots of Paladins were getting twitchy about the increased oddness so it was a way to put some perspective/reasoning behind what they were seeing/feeling.

I also think (but certainly don't know)given the history we do have that it's possible the recent DP activities -could- be related. But who knows.

~Katt

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A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!

I'd love to talk to a Paladin about some of this stuff. Find me in game.


- Terra