It's my understanding that you need to know all weapons (edged for example) to one day be able to forge a decent edged weapon. What exactly can be forged? Can you also forge pikes and halberds? What else am I missing, anything? So far I'm training LE, ME, HE, 2HE, LB, MB, HB and 2HB. Should I be training other types to?

Thanks.

Weapons:
broadsword, rapier, maul, short sword, morning star, hand axe, carving knife, dagger, cutlass, scimitar, hunting sword, longsword, battle axe, greatsword, war hammer, war club, mace, flanged mace, flail, war mattock, foil, halberd, pike, kris, stiletto, falcata, baselard, sabre, bastard sword, claymore, two-handed sword, katar, misericorde, spear, javelin, lance, dart, throwing dagger.

Ok, so by the look of it I need to also train.. halberds, pikes, spears, thrown weapons (all kinds?)........ if I'm not missing anything. My goal is to one day be able to forge any kind of weapon.

I take it while you can forge a swappable HE/2HE bastard sword, you can't forge a swappable HB/2HB...

VERY nice.


Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
>You charge your steel-toed footwrap at a musk hog.

Pyramids, braiding grasses and vines, origami, making bows and arrows, put iron bars on the forge and pound them into weapons.

I am sure there are a few other ways



Drevid

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>> I've been able to get better than storebought scims since I had around 180-200 in ME, 100 each in the other three and around 110 or so in mech. 250 in each blade and you should be able to start grinding, and getting more than one or two grinds in, I've been told.

Grinding? Ok, never forged before and a long way from forging for my first time.. so haven't a clue what you mean but I assume it's part of a more.. advanced process of forging maybe?

It's the final part of the forging process.

You make the mix, the pour it into the ingot mold to let it cool.

Get the cooled ingot, put it on the forge to heat it up.

Once it's a few minutes past white hot you put it on the anvil to pound into whatever weapon you want.

Once you've pounded it into the weapon, you can take the unfinished blade to the grindstone and grind it to add more slice/puncture/balance/hitting power.

Then you hilt it and you have a weapon.


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POUND HELP needs to be fixed. I've been training LB, MB, HB, 2HB, LE, ME, HE, 2HE and Halberds.. and I've only found out LB can't be forged? Next to each weapon diplayed when typing POUND HELP the type of the weapon should be in parenthesis. If you've not worked with a weapon, it's highly unlikely you'd know what type it is.. yet it seems that it is assumed you already know?

As for LB, if you can't forge it (or any other type of weapon for that matter) can I assume it it not included as a factor when forging any blunt?

Ooook... well I'm gonna train it anyways. Anybody know why LB wasn't included and if that will be changed... ever? Any others not included that I might be training that I'm not aware of?

Anyone know what your forging factor should be to begin forging, and what it needs to be to be able to cap weapons?

Also don't forget that each weapon template has its own difficulty. With 350FF in blades you can cap steel broadswords, but it would take ~500ish to cap steel bastard swords. This is for barbarians as well.

Has anyone really tried to use analyze to identify which templates are easy and which are hard? I've found claymores to be easier than greatswords, and broadswords to be easier than basties. No clue where the other templates fall. I'd be extremely happy if someone could post a list.

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<<Anyone know exactly how that works? Is it just an average of all your weapons and your mech?

FF = 60% of the weapon you are making + 30% of the average of the other three weapons in that grouping + 10% mech


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Cylons... why debugging matters.

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Or for the lazy: http://dr.six-something.org/ff.php

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personally i started playin in the forge around 120FF and gave up due to a lot of breakage until i was closer to the 200 mech and FF range and could start to grind and get less breakage. it really sucks to spend a couple hours mixing, cooling, heating to have your weapon/armor break on the last or second to last pound. i'd say around 250 FF for heavy slice 34 stone scims. 280 FF and still cant get BC slice on 35 stone claymores with 12 edge grinds.

<<Are you using a 2.5% steel mix, or overdusting? The larger swords have so much construction you can probably afford to dump the 20-something dust in at the end needed to up the slice. Though I'm still not convinced it is worth it. Losing a bunch of impact and suitability for some slice never made sense to me.>>

yeah I don't overdust, guess i'm kinda purist like that. I only use as much dust as necessary to make steel. I like to keep construction as high as possible, to me thats how i gauge my progress. I try to keep my ingots in that hard/very rigid or somewhat flex/very light range when making the 3.0 density stuff. my 35 stone comes out as l/s/f d/r well const. and compares as the same slice as vibs forged BC 34 stone but mine has better construction and a little more suited to extra power. Until i started to make decent forged weapons and could grind I never really understood the range of the appraisals. I always knew it was a range and severe could equal BC but after making a good many blades I have a better understanding, as well as understanding a bit more on advertsing. Now I just need one of the big market forgers to give me all their grinding standards at various weights so I can gauge my progess on when I'm making capped for market value.

If you mix together the molten metal and the first four full dusts they will have different properties. Each combination produces a change in the final properties of the ingot/wire/plate. You'd be adding three dusts to say molten nickel-alloy at say 26 stone weight and 11 slug volume instead of adding the a 14 stone weight and 14 slug volume to an 18 stone weight and 3 slug volume. You'll expand the mix more without adding more weight. It's one way of lightening mixes.

For the other, the reason you mix one slug in at a time is compression. There are times you'll want to add weight without adding any volume. It happens when you mix an odd number of slugs. A bar plus a slug is 11 slugs and would cause compression.

Basically forging now is weird.

A couple of my mixes that I used in the past are not coming out right anymore. I'm not sure why, I ruled out everything on my side. :)

Anyone else notice anything different? For me a few items are coming out one grind off of what they used to be.


Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons

Wow, that's all gibberish to me, good to see that smithing finally did something! LOL

Actually ever play again, I'd be more curious about the smithing than anything else. Freak that I am.

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