This is what I am going to seek approval for next. Please let me know your thoughts:

* Meditation Dispel currently requires the Barbarian to sit, or if they have the Yogi Feat, to stand in place for up to 10 seconds waiting for the dispel to fire. The dispel can only affect them. As a result of the limitations this ability is not used by Barbarian. Proposing this confers a dispel charge (10-20 minute duration) to the Barbarian. So it can be prepared out of combat and used when necessary.


* RIPOSTE - Available as a general combat Style to apply a counter-attack + Tactical Combo Debuff on the enemy if they attack via a Tactics vs Defending contest. 45-60-second cooldown. Barbarians can learn Dervish Mastery (1 slot) to get the DERVISH style with its own cooldown, that applies a counter-attack and Barbarian Expertise Combo if a successful Expertise vs Defending check succeeds. This gives a more efficient way of learning Tactics for everyone. Gives barbarians a new way to utilize Expertise. And all-in-all gives PvP some more potential depth.


* Remove Meditate Power - I've been convinced to give this to everyone for free and propose replacing it with ...

* Meditate Sacrifice - 1 Slot Skinning Bonus Meditation

* Arcana forget quest and Ignorance bonus - I propose that ignorance of arcana will confer a bonus to the passive IF regen limit.

* Artificed Totems - Worn to confer an increase to the ability cap. One for Meditations, one for Berserks and one for Forms. Other options possible. Kind of a replacement for the Sharksteeth of old.


Waiting -

* Need the Barrier review to finish before we review slot costing too much. Could see some huge changes from all of that and I don't want to do work twice.

* Always looking for more ideas for Supernatural-themed Artificed items.

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I'm not barbarian-prime, but I do have a few barb characters. I've always been just a bit in love with the idea of a barbarian undertaking a quest to forge a special weapon and quenching it with blood rather than common water. I would have to think a bit to decide how to implicate this quest.

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> I'm not barbarian-prime, but I do have a few barb characters. I've always been just a bit in love with the idea of a barbarian undertaking a quest to forge a special weapon and quenching it with blood rather than common water. I would have to think a bit to decide how to implicate this quest.


I like that idea. If you put it away before it kills something then it kills you instead. As a reward, when you kill something with it, you get an inner fire boost. If you aren't killing with it enough, it drains your own blood to compensate (vit hit).

> I don't know how we would code such a thing :(

I can't look at the code so apologies for the WAG. What if it just replicated the effects and set a flag that powermonger could check? Look at the HE rings as a template. They already limit the number of rings you can wear to 1, and they each give raw bonuses. This assumes masteries are really a combination of flags.

If that's not possible, what about something like this. It's kind of far out there, so I'm not sure it would work.
- Wear item, gives you mastery, reduces number of available spell slots (allowing you to go negative). Call it an educational device of some sort. (think spell weavel - it teaches you a spell when you use it, but make this one permanent(ish))
- Remove item, takes away the mastery (like the spell library or forgetting), refunds spell slots (maybe automatic already?)
- The item will resist you if you already know the mastery, so you can't wear it. (check similar to the HE ring since it looks for another ring).

Again, if that's not possible, how about this?
- Model it after a gweth.
- Charge based item. You lose the ability if it turns (death, arrest, etc)
- Rub it to re-enable. It'll burn a charge if you already have the mastery.
- When it fades, even if you had the mastery before, you lose the mastery and have to re-learn it. Barbarian perk. You can swap around quickly enough (maybe add a stun or something) if you have enough items with enough charges.

Fair enough. As always, thanks for putting thought behind it.

>Honestly, from someone who plays a magic oriented character in this game (and others), this was a CONFUSING moment for me. Every magic guild in the game gets this for free. I initially thought I was doing something wrong.

I'm definitely glad that meditate power is being given away for free, but honestly, the fact that ability slots being a guild-related or skillset perk is still a huge CONFUSING moment for me.

Edited for masked vulgarity. Don't do this please - Iocanthe

> Arcana forget quest and Ignorance bonus - I propose that ignorance of arcana will confer a bonus to the passive IF regen limit.

+1 to "there needs to be a way to turn off Arcana gain permanently". It's way too easy to learn Arcana accidentally right now to put a mechanic around it.

That aside, if there is a mechanic tied to a lack of Arcana, it effectively means we're trading TDPs for passive IF regen. Is that a tradeoff any other guild has to make?

Kodius, if you're looking for some ideas to spice up combat, maybe think about getting impale toned down so the -armor effect can be brought back? Or revamping the manuever system to make more useful? I know it's not barb exclusive, but I think we could get a lot of mileage out of it, plus it would be thematically cool to see people running around destroying each other with lances.

https://elanthipedia.play.net/Post:Combat_3.1_-_12/08/2013_-_16:38

I would say that if TM +damage foci is the new standard for what damage looks like in combat, a toned-down impale would not be unreasonable - I mean, at least with it, if I wanted to blow someone away, usually had to rage/shriek first.

Right now, with MAF as it is and how easily it can be recast, they really just aren't worth using.

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