I was messing around with a buddy, doing a little PvP. It was Squanto vs his 128th paladin. Squanto has 100 strength, discipline, and charisma. I have no idea about the paladin's stats, but I did notice after roaring wail and strike, staggered, then beating on him a bit, they lasted several seconds. After he shook those off, I roared wail and strike again, landing them, and he shook them off basically immediately (1 sec). I thought the next roars were diminishing returns, but not 1 second right away. I tested it again vs a trader with 54 discipline, 50 wisdom and 50 intelligence, and the exact same thing happened.

So I ran some tests (vs the trader):

Wail 3 times in a row (after each immobilize was shaken off): 21 seconds, 11 seconds, 1 second (doing the one one thousand out loud counting technique of the days of yore).

Strike 3 times in a row (after each stun was shaken off): 21 seconds, 10 seconds, 1 second (same counting technique).

Wail, then strike, then wail, then strike (after each debilitating roar wore off): 21 seconds, 11 seconds, 1 seconds, 1 seconds.

It looks like the stuns and immobilizers are working off the same timers when chained together. Is this intended? This was also tested vs the trader with a necromancer with 100s in all challenging stats (and 50 mana preps) for Ice Patch then Petrifying Visions. 21 seconds and 10 seconds for the next debilitating cast.

Trader's stats:

Strength : 57 Reflex : 50
Agility : 58 Charisma : 63
Discipline : 54 Wisdom : 50
Intelligence : 50 Stamina : 56

^ For any pertinent information vs the necromancer.

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"If swords ever cross, the Barbarian shall be the one left standing." - Guild Leader Agonar

>>It looks like the stuns and immobilizers are working off the same timers when chained together. Is this intended?

Yes.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

Well...maybe this should be changed? I mean if not then it is pointless to have both roars, I don't think having one ability should make another pointless at all.

Not just that, but Strike is vs Fortitude whereas Wail is vs Will.

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IM: Dannyboy00001111

"Fool proof system do not take into account the ingenuity of fools, nor the power of numbers."

>>I was under the impression that immobilize is vastly inferior to stun?

Immobolize is a bigger penalty I believe, I forget if stun has an actual penalty (besides not being able to move). But stun puts you at the worst possible balance which is the penalty. If stun does have a penalty its smaller than immobolize but you have the balance penalty tacked on.

If you can fire off stun first and then immobolize I assume it would be way worse than just one or the other.

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