I haven't paid much attention to changes over last few years...

Is discipline only thing that affects dances...or do we need charisma for that too?

Hello fellow barbs, I just recently returned and today decided to read the forums. I can say in my experience with bear that before I left 1.5 years ago I had been getting a steady 13 point boost in strength for a long while. I'll stop by a forge and test the boost now to see if it's still consistent. Currently I have 42 Str, 40 Cha, 40 Dis if that helps.

Executioner Catullus

>Executioner Catullus

Booo! We are full up on cats, try the Bard guild!

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The Little Empath That Wouldnt, Even Though It Was Her Job to Heal Me
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A Matter of Magic 2: How to Get More by Doing Less

Hi there, codiax, pleasure to be back and thanks for the welcoming.

Executioner Catullus

Nope, engagement has not been changed yet.

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No idea, man. I'm not even sure where you would ask. I guess the combat folder and than hope a combat GM is reading there. Welcome back btw.

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This is my understanding but I don't use dances much so other people should be able to clarify.

They're capped duration wise, but then you can dance them again. So, dancing back to back indefinitely would be your aim. Duration cap is something around 25-28 minutes.

Discipline/concentration so stats and circle affect dances. Just discipline is tied into the boosts from the dance, and then concentration (so disc and circle) are tied into the duration.

Armor can hinder dances, you'll get that information when you start, and I believe that is only duration hindrance.

Burden is actually the bigger factor from my experience, where the burden level right below light where you are still at none can cost me 3-5 minutes on a dance.

Back to back eagle dance indefinitely would probably be possible in the 250-300 concentration range or thereabouts.

I am --- Navak

When I do any dance using my small sized garg shield, I see "Your movements feel completely unhindered." but when I use my medium sized croc shield, I get "You feel slightly restricted in your armor."

I have 158 ranks in shield, and my croc shield appraises as fairly hindering, how much skill do I need to not be hindered by it?

Well i just thought i would say that i think dances could use a lil bit of lovin..first of all the only dances worth dancing in my view are eagle wolverine panther and dragon, Wolverine is a pretty good dance...I like it and use it to hunt most of the time...eagle and panther i use very rarely and Dragon i use when i'm trying to kill something that poses a challenge. Dragon is decent but i think there's a few things that could use a uptweak as in the balance boost...its so slow with dragon i think it should pulse about the same rate as wolverine or swan, also why can't we get a perception boost with it? from anything i've ever read about dragons they had superior eyesight and it should reflect in the dragon form of dancing. I'd like to see some new dances really but what would you do to top dragon? i'd have to say at higher circles around 100 or above the dances should get stronger or a pure form, that would boost them slightly or add more beneficial effects


Shadow Chieftain

Swan needs to like...do something.

The balance boost isn't even that reliable in combat where balance adjustments happen a lot faster than it pulses.

I am --- Navak

Swan - Only when I'm messing around in a lower level hunting area and using whirlwind back to back to back to back.

Cobra - Only when using light edge and I'm having trouble landing hard hits.

Badger - Always. If I dont have eagle up I always walk around with this up. The defensive boost it gives is awesome.

Eagle - My primary ranged training dance. Also have it up if I'm walking about town.

B ear - Swimming and climbing.

Wolverine - Never

Panther - Never

Dragon - PvP and someone is significantly bigger or I need the BMR boost.


I agree however that we need more love with some dances. Swan needs more functionality and eagle needs some serious love in the perception catagory. Im sure once I cross the 100+ threshold wolverine might become viable for hunting. Right now it isnt.

Otherwise, outside of Swan and Eagle I think I'd rather see time devoted to meditations and new stuff.

!>You hear the distant echo of a savage Horde screaming in barbaric approval of your deeds.

>Could be due to my 20 discipline at circle 35 (low?) or my 6 intelligence?

That's a joke right? The 6 intelligence part...


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You raise your hands in the air. You wave them like you just don't care. Somebody says, "Hey!" Somebody says, "Ho!" Somebody screams.

Intelligence impacts more than learning. 6 is a big gamble to take on any statistic since noone but GMs knows what each one plays a role in.

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>dance sprite
A water sprite laughs and spins away as you approach her for a dance!

More power to you. Wish I could scrap strength like that ... lousy strength.

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>dance sprite
A water sprite laughs and spins away as you approach her for a dance!

Doesn't 6 intelligence basically mean that someone straight out of the character generator could rub an MB rune and knock you out?

Neglecting any one stat that severely is going to hurt your BMR. My resistance is pretty sick and I've only got 2 stats under 40 (strength @ 36 and intelligence at 35)

My current goal, although painful is to bring intelligence to 40 then finish my push at getting discipline and stamina to 50 (both cheap for me)

Just remember, if you over specialize you breed in weakness.

!>You hear the distant echo of a savage Horde screaming in barbaric approval of your deeds.

I quit.

Codiax.

>>Galren's BMR post.

Yeah, don't neglect stats. Don't forget that it was HIGHLY ADVISED that you train your stats according to your racial bonuses to maximize your BMR. Ie...train the cheapest stat available.

~Player behind Korutu

>>Swan is and has always been useless.

I've actually been finding a use for it lately, hunting la'heke in Ratha. The deck is naturally slippery, and if I dance swan, I don't fall (and usually die shortly thereafter) nearly as much. I seem to recall a place also where the ground rumbles or crumbles or something and you have to stay balanced or you fall over, but I can't remember where.

So it's less useful, but not useless.

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An arbelog is moderately stunned!
An arbelog hisses out a whispered curse as it stumbles, falls, then dies.
[You're very badly balanced]

Swan was useful hunting in thunder rams in Theren. I only use it now for fun.

mfberg