Ok, so here's a test I'm currently halfway through. The idea was to train some skills to locked in the test server, let them drain out and record the length of time, tally the ranks, and then see how the exp gain compares to what I experience in Prime (part 2 of the test) over the same amount of time.

I've never really run any tests before, so it's probably gonna be kind of useless info. I'm not sure which of these skills are on walls. Additionally, when I get to round 2, my ranks in prime are a tad higher and on different points of the wall cycle, so this isn't exactly scientifically perfect.

Skill	Start Ranks	Time to Drain	Gain
MO	328 61.28%	91 minutes	.3239
Evasion	339 55.93%	147 minutes	.2705
Parry	371 52.89%	105 minutes	.21
HC	331 69.35%	147 minutes	.2751
Shield	337 24.74%	147 minutes	.2714
Leather	293 62.11%	147 minutes	.2628

All skills started at Mind Lock, and as soon as they hit clear I noted the time, checking exp every 200 seconds. I slept while doing this.

Ready for the really weird part? Towards the end, I realized that vocals and musical theory were still in the draining race.

Skill	Rank	Starting State	Time to Drain	Gain
Vocals	641.47	Considering	130 minutes	.07
Musical Theory	556.36	Perusing	124 minutes	.02

The numbers aren't as precise, and the mind state to start might have been one higher or so since I didn't include those skills in my checking script.

It seems to me that something's screwy. I'm gonna try to start phase two of the test shortly, but so far these are my impressions:

I was under the impression that a skill in any set (Primary, second, tert) would drain in much less time. The fact that my primary two skills took forever to go nowhere leads me to believe something is really screwy.

I'm kind of getting the same feeling of grindyness others mentioned. I didn't bother trying to lock weapons for testing (I had some difficulty getting some moving, which I guess is technically good but frustrating when you're trying to get to a relatively low mindstate before switching weapons and just...not getting there).

Again, those are initial impressions. Gonna start my Prime part of the test now. Further results in another 2 and a half hours, I suppose.


-=Issus=-

He was referring to the difference in time between his mindlock Primary skills draining to clear vs. his mindlocked Tert skills draining to clear under the new system. Not how its comparable to the current standard.

According to Z's original post the primary pools would drain fastest, terts the slowest. He even gave approximate drain times. Issus observed the opposite to that.

-Evran

Crackling with unspent rage since 386AV.

<<Actually, I was referring to this:

That's what I basically said just without the quote from his post...

<<What I saw was 105 and 91 minutes for secondary, and 147 for terts.

My guess is the recent modification of mentals to have less of an effect caused the slower drain then originally posted. That seems like it could be around the right time.

<<As for primary: They didn't start locked, they started at really low learning rates actually. The reason they took so long to drain down to clear is a problem in the system, I'd assume.

Definitely something wonky with this. They should have cleared in a few pulses if they started that low.

-Evran

Crackling with unspent rage since 386AV.

>What I saw was 105 and 91 minutes for secondary, and 147 for terts. As for primary: They didn't start locked, they started at really low learning rates actually. The reason they took so long to drain down to clear is a problem in the system, I'd assume.

Gotcha... Misread the post.

>>>Drain rate is 3 times smaller.
>>Not exactly , unless I've been confused this whole time. I'm not sure it's really fair to to compare something that drains exponentially (exp decay) to something that drains constantly.

Z posted that the drain rate is now a constant percentage of pool size, was reduced to compensate for the increase in pool size, and should result in approximately the same pulse size.

-pete