Ok, maybe not everything is settled in Test yet and if so then you can totally disregard this post.

But assuming the present attack RT and stuff is how you've intentionally designed the system I have to say this is not how I understood your post about Combat 3.0

Some of my other friends have commented on how crazy slow the RTs are now. I understand you're trying to slow down combat but I do not think raising the RTs is the right solution.

From your post,

Each attack type also has an optimal roundtime. While players can and will be able to reduce their roundtimes as they gain skill and increase stats, attacking faster than the optimal roundtime increases the chances of losing balance. To maintain or build balance, players will need to deliberately do so by either slowing down a little and/or choosing more balance-friendly attacks (or via special abilities, spells, etc)

My comprehension of this post is that there would be an 'optimum RT' that would be ideal for you to wait for, but that the weapons would retain their present(more or less) low RT values.

So using a slice with a Medium Edge weapon would be 2 seconds and you could do stuff after that RT was done, but say that Medium Edge weapon's 'optimum RT' on slice is 4 seconds, so unless you waited for 2 additional seconds(2 initial + 2 waiting) before attacking again you'd suffer a slight balance loss or wouldn't gain as much balance on the next attack or whatever since you didn't wait long enough before attacking again.

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There are things I REALLY don't like. I fired a dual loaded bow with a 7-8 second round time after the shot. Why would it take me 7-8 seconds to let go of the bow string? Factor in 5 seconds for load, 6 for full aim and then 7-8 to fire and each shot takes 18-19 seconds. I was just using 2HE. It took 350 seconds to kill a single assassin. The fight brought me from full stamina to sub 30% and I got to 6/34.

> I fired a dual loaded bow with a 7-8 second round time after the shot.


Just for the record, I haven't done any updates whatsoever to fired weapon combat in the Test instance yet, except in terms of the hit/miss calculations and resulting damage. It is very likely (as in pretty much guaranteed) that any roundtime changes for weapons that use the FIRE verb are a bug, and I'll deal with it when I have a chance, but it isn't going to be a high priority since I still need to redo FIRE completely. I might stumble across the problem before then, of course. I do promise it won't go live this way!


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>So using a slice with a Medium Edge weapon would be 2 seconds and you could do stuff after that RT was done, but say that Medium Edge weapon's 'optimum RT' on slice is 4 seconds, so unless you waited for 2 additional seconds(2 initial + 2 waiting) before attacking again you'd suffer a slight balance loss or wouldn't gain as much balance on the next attack or whatever since you didn't wait long enough before attacking again. ~Leilond

I think having an abstract ideal “wait” time is an awful idea personally. To me the point of RT is to tell you when you can attack again, not just be a time that you can’t attack. To me what you’re wanting is pretty much saying we need to now, as players, count in our head with every attack in a game we type in. If this were a console game with an attack button and we were timing with an animation on the screen, then that would be well and good. However this is a text RPG where you can’t see anything, and I personally don’t want to go “slice”, wait for the RT and go 1.. 2.. “slice”.

Also, I do think that 2 seconds would be a good minimum for actions. I think attacking executing every second is a little much, but I also think 7 seconds is a little, ok, way too much. I could see maybe 2/3 for LE, 3/4 for ME, and 3/5 for HE/2HE would be reasonable. Maybe that’s my opinion.


-Dek

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