You have to play a character above 20th circle to make real money Krooner :P. Unless you just grind WO's you can do decent there.

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If you're outdoors, Fire Rain is sweet for farming. If you're indoors, Fireball. CL lost its mass-killing edge.

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With the 3.0 combat changes the amount of money that can be made in combat has gone waaayyyy down. A couple years ago before I quit I was making easily over 1k every 24 hours no sweat. Since I have started playing again I am lucky to be at 500 plat every 24 hours and if i hunt to actually train in either elders or drakes that is more like 200 plat every 24 hours.

Doing crafting orders are by far the fastest and easiest way to make coinage now

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>both pale in comparison to money made from crafting items
>Doing crafting orders are by far the fastest and easiest way to make coinage now

Wait. What? I must be doing something wrong.

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I can make a lot more AoE hunting with my warrior mage than I've been able to make through non-stop WOs. I'm willing to bet that it's really player, technique and guild specific as to which is the best earner for an individual.

>~5 minutes per work order

5 minutes for a whole work order? When forging, that's about the time that it takes to make one item.

You can make a whole alchemy item, start to finish in 1 minute?

>>Or did you mine the material yourself? If so, the opportunity cost of not re-selling the material comes out of your profits.

I use the nuggets that are medium or larger in my mixes because of the way mined nuggets give diminishing returns as their size goes up. And, as I said, I'd factor in the time it takes to mine. At the same time, I'd either be learning outdoorsmanship mining or learning outdoorsmanship collecting piles, so it's not like I'm going out of my way to train something.

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>See B) above. Did you buy the gold/silver/platinum? If so, it comes out of your profits. Or did you mine the material yourself? If so, the opportunity cost of not re-selling the material comes out of your profits.

I believe Tev posted this? If so, there's a minimal supply or market for ore in Plat, so the monetary cost impact should be lower than you expect. Though I don't know for sure.

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>>Yes, I know. But you then also have to take time to find someone selling niniam, or forage and prepare seolarn weed, etc. By the time you do all that, you might as well have just used coal and done 30+ work orders.

Eh, I find at least one niniam vein a day. Each one generally nets me 30-60 volume depending on the vein size/my luck/how many butterflies flapped by that day.

Since I train outdoorsmanship anyway, mining out niniam isn't an issue for me, because I'd be mining something to move the skill if not collecting giant piles of dirt.

>>I don't think you're going to beat someone spam killing dobeks or gryphons.

Spam killing things weaker than you is always going to be best, because there's no WO version of "well I'm super awesome at making these clippers so it only takes two pounds to complete."

That said, WOs aren't a bad way to make money. Someone could make a reasonable amount of money doing them.

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The teeth lands a solid (5/23) hit that pokes the teeth into Turul's rear end (more embarrassing than painful!).

> ~5 minutes per work order

Wow, in what world does that happen?! I can get maybe 3 work orders carved in an hour. Unless they are all large ones.

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Broken Bard since January 19, 2013 - 2 Dolefaren 407

>>Wow, in what world does that happen?! I can get maybe 3 work orders carved in an hour. Unless they are all large ones.

I was off in my average, I just did 2 hours of work orders to check my numbers. It is closer to 12 minutes per work order including tool repair time (9 per without tool repair).

I averaged 2475 per work order in revenue.

I had to fix my tools about once every 3 work order at the cost of ~200 kronar per trip (stamp, bowl, stick, mortar, pestle, & sieve)

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>>The point still stands: at about 300 ranks give or take, hunting is better than alchemy for making money.

For alchemy, sure, but that's because of how remedy values are calculated. A lot of it is just based on the value of 1 volume of catalyst in the mix. Alchemy WOs would go for a lot more if you could add a lot more catalyst somehow.

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The teeth lands a solid (5/23) hit that pokes the teeth into Turul's rear end (more embarrassing than painful!).

Either skinning or locksmithing at the highest levels make incredible amounts of money incredibly quickly.

Also even with the combat slow down, at the highest levels as you enter the area of being waaaay more powerful than what you're hunting but still being waaaay less powerful than the next tier (or just not having another tier to go to) the kills start come incredibly quickly again.

Especially for those that hunt in groups of 3 or 4 (which also makes the high level spawn rates go nuts, in a good way).

To actually answer the questions:

Any Survival Prime is gonna dominate the cash flow since they'll learn skinning and/or locksmithing very quickly. Of course in the ultimate long run it wouldn't matter what guild as long as you keep working it.

Trader's make most of their money reselling items at their shops, buy low, sell high kinda thing. I mean that to include something like buying rare metals in bulk (cheap) and crafting it into a weapon/armor/tool and reselling it (high), or running quests and reselling endtable loot, or buying a lot of something from a limited item shop and hording it for a bit before giving it a nice mark up.

So... yes and no.

Depends on how good they are.

>>niniam

is there a market for niniam, I find the stuff sometimes and just get rid of it.

If there is a market for niniam, what should the price be per volume?

I've been dumping, niniam, electrum, darkstone, silver, gold, platinum, muracite

If you could price the above metals for a 200 volume ingot, what would the prices be?

Thanks.

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