As Annwyl requested, I am starting a new thread for the discussion of Elanthipedia's creature data. The original post: http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Surviving%20in%20DragonRealms%20-%20Elanthia/Elanthipedia%20(DragonRealms%20WIKI)/view/11


>>Jwark4: the most helpful thing to me would be updated teaching ranges on the critters. I'm not sure if that's what the purpose of this board is for or is in scope. I don't have the numbers either. And more specific numbers on what skills they teach.

Unfortunately, this is not as easy as it sounds. Only a small number of players contribute to Elanthipedia. Among our wiki contributors, you have to find one who is in the sweet spot, rank-wise, for testing a particular creature's range. Since most people just hunt what they want to hunt (instead of deliberately trying to test all of the creatures they are in range to test), at best, we end up with a few players who post rank data as they progress up their hunting ladders.

In order to make any significant progress in updating rank data, we need a lot more players to contribute -- ideally going out of their way to test creatures they would not normally consider hunting.

So what about asking GMs for this data? Unfortunately, the creature data is not formatted in a way that is conducive to GMs' exporting rank ranges. We have gotten a partial list of creature levels (which I added to the relevant creature pages), but this does little more than indicate relative difficulty.


>>Teveshszat: 2) Training "caps" are definitely something that can be used, but it's just... tricky. Offensive, defensive, and stealth caps aren't always equal (or necessarily even close to each other). Plus, should the cap be when something outright stops teaching, or stops teaching well?

We use the hard cap (when it stops teaching altogether).

https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/How_to_edit_a_creature_page#What_do_the_rank_ranges_mean.3F

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Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall rank!

sortable list of all Trader-owned shops and inventory: http://www.elanthia.org/TraderShops/

armor and shields: https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Armor_and_shield_player_guide

Yeah I meant if we could just get the data from the GMs. If it's too hard then so be it.

It's more than just the caps. It's things such as germish din not teaching stealth at all but teaching skinning the same as warklins even though warklins are ranked above them.

I guess the flip side is it's sort of fun exploring hunting areas and finding out what works but sometimes I just want to know more details.