More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 02:03 PM CST
I'm reading all the charts and I can't get my scholarship above 4/34 at 440. I can only imagine it's worse for those that aren't lore tert. Can we please get a few more high-level charts?


Is there a better way to train scholarship at this level that I'm forgetting about?

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 02:14 PM CST
With lore secondary and 482, about the only way I end up moving it is via studying a spellbook or teaching a class.
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 02:51 PM CST
How well does the art in raven's court teach at that level?




"We're not "out to get you," we're here to enhance your playing experience with extreme prejudice.," DR-ARMIFER
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 02:52 PM CST
The only way I get my scholarship moving over 700 is Raven's Point or like the last poster said studying a spellbook (which I think is the most convenient way of learning it right now) or if I happen to find the right teacher/student chemistry it can move pretty fast.

I'd also like to see more applications for the scholarship skill, like using it to learn other languages for instance.


- Terra
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 04:02 PM CST
>>How well does the art in raven's court teach at that level?

It teaches ok for me at about 500 ranks, but it's a very inefficient use of training time compared to just about every other skill. A full circuit studying all the art takes like 15 minutes and nets me maybe 12-15 mindstates out of 34. So I figure maybe 30-40 minutes of constant RT to hit mindlock. It's not the worst thing ever, but it's not particularly fast either.

Apu
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/24/2010 06:57 PM CST
<<So I figure maybe 30-40 minutes of constant RT to hit mindlock.>>

plus you wouldn't be able to do a second <or beyond> circuit in there, as studying the art in RC is on a timer, so you don't learn the second time around.




You've seen life through distorted eyes;You know you had to learn;The execution of your mind;You really had to turn;,the book is read,The end begins to show,The truth is out, the lies are old, But you don't want to know - Black Sabbath

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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 06:20 AM CST
I have a spellbook that I haven't used since compendiums came out. Maybe I'll give that a go. Anyone have a good script they'd like to share?

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 06:50 AM CST
warmie spell book? I have a script I wrote for mine. If its another, I don't have a script. Let me know.


Jim
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 07:23 AM CST
I'll take it. I'm pretty lazy and don't want to go in and grab all the turn a page, read a page, etc messages.

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 07:31 AM CST
>>I'll take it. I'm pretty lazy and don't want to go in and grab all the turn a page, read a page, etc messages.

If it's well written, it should function regardless of the guild the spellbook is for. I had one when I still used spellbooks for my Empath, Moonmage and Ranger. Same script. I'd post it if I still had it.


TG, TG, GL, et al.
Also: Moo.
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 07:40 AM CST
remember, don't be AFK scripting, I don't condone it!!! But here's the simple simple script I wrote for mine. And remember, use the spellbook inside for those that don't know!!! Its not weather proof! ;-P


put get spell case from scrip
pause 1
put open my spell case
pause 1
put get spellbook
pause 1
put put spell case in scrip
pause 1
put open my spell
pause 1
put turn spellbook to chapter 1
pause 1
put turn spellbook to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
pause 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
pause 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to chapter 2
pause 1
put turn spell to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 6
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 7
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to chapter 3
pause 2
put turn spell to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 6
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to chapter 4
pause 2
put turn spell to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 6
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 7
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to chapter 5
pause 1
put turn spell to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 6
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 7
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 8
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 9
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to chapter 6
pause 2
put turn spell to page 1
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 2
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 3
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 4
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 5
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 6
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 7
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 8
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 9
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to page 10
put study my spell
waitfor roundtime
pause 2
put turn spell to contents
pause 2
put close spell
put get spell case
pause 1
put put spellbook in spell case
put close spell case
pause 1
put put spell case in my scrip


Jim
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/25/2010 02:43 PM CST
It's a genie script, but with a bit of tweaking probably will work in SF.

You'll also need to change the lock messaging to match yours, or bypass it if you don't have a locking spellbook case.

var max.chapter 4

observe:
matchre observe ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry
matchre bad.weather rain|raining|snow|snowing|blizzard|Snow|Rain|Raining|Snowing|Blizzard|drizzle|drizzling
put obs wea
matchwait 2
goto start

bad.weather:
echo bad weather
put #parse DONE
exit


start:
var chapter 1
var page 1

get:
if "$righthandnoun" = "spellbook" then goto open.book
put get my spellbook case
wait
put wear my spellbook case
wait
put open my spell case
waitforre ^You open|^That is already
put turn my spell case to spellbook
waitforre ^You shift|^The compartment
put get my spellbook
waitforre ^You get

open.book:
matchre open.book ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry,
matchre chapter ^You open|^That is already
matchre open.lock ^You'll need to
matchre unlock ^You try to
put open my spellbook
matchwait

open.lock:
matchre open.lock ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry,
matchre open.book ^You carefully detach
matchre unlock ^The platinum dragon
put open my bloodlock
matchwait

unlock:
put turn my spellbook case to misc
waitforre ^You shift|^The compartment
put get key in my spellbook case
waitforre ^You get
put unlock my spellbook with my key
waitforre ^You insert
put put my key in my spellbook case
waitforre ^You tuck|^You put
goto open.lock

next.chapter:
math chapter add 1
var page 1
chapter:
if %chapter = %max.chapter then goto done
matchre chapter ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry,
matchre page ^You turn
put turn my spellbook to chapter %chapter
matchwait

next.page:
math page add 1
page:
matchre page ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry,
matchre study ^You turn
matchre next.chapter ^There are only
put turn my spellbook to page %page
matchwait

study:
matchre study ^\.\.\.wait|^Sorry,
matchre exp ^You carefully
put study my spellbook
matchwait

exp:
if $Scholarship.LearningRate > 30 then goto done
goto next.page

done:
put close my spellbook
waitforre ^You close
put turn my spellbook case to misc
waitforre ^You shift|^The compartment
put get key in my spellbook case
waitforre ^You get
put close my bloodlock
waitforre ^You pull|^It's already
put lock my spellbook with my key
waitforre ^You insert
put put my key in my spellbook case
waitforre ^You tuck|^You put
put turn my spellbook case to spellbook
waitforre ^You shift|^The compartment
put put my spellbook in my spellbook case
waitforre ^You tuck|^What were
put close my spellbook case
put remove my spellbook case
wait
put stow my spellbook case
wait
put #parse DONE
exit

DRPrime - Celeres Turrance
DRPrime - NecroUnknown
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/26/2010 09:34 AM CST
So I don't have to test it, what's the timer on spellbook exp?

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/26/2010 09:56 AM CST
I just checked this morning. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to be an hour.

~Kattena




A gestalt draugen swipes a hooked leonine claw at Silus. The claw lands a solid hit that cuts deeply into his groin!
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/26/2010 03:59 PM CST
I still would love many more chart options, even if it's just a few additional tiers of the race charts. Like an intermediate human chart, an advanced human chart, an extremely detailed expert human chart. Something like this.
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/27/2010 01:58 PM CST
>I still would love many more chart options, even if it's just a few additional tiers of the race charts. Like an intermediate human chart, an advanced human chart, an extremely detailed expert human chart.

That would be super awesome.

Well that worked surprisingly well. 20 ish levels of learning in 5.5 minutes. To bad about the 1 hour timer. Here's the script I ended up with.
## Parts of this script have been shamelessly stolen from several sources.
## Including but not limited to ROCKYWILLIAMS1479, GRIM45, Tyrael, Navak, Vein
## Thanks

action kill.spellbook goto Done
#messages for spellbook damage due to weather
#action "need messages for spellbook damage due to weather" goto Done
action "You finish humming" put "hum $humstyle$"
put hum $humstyle$

setvariable chapter 1
setvariable page 1
SETVARIABLE totaltime $secondsonline$

echo Type YES to continue regardless of the wearer.
Top:
MATCH top sorry,
MATCH top ...wait
MATCH bad.weather rain
MATCH bad.weather raining
MATCH bad.weather snow
MATCH bad.weather snowing
MATCH bad.weather blizzard
MATCH bad.weather Snow
MATCH bad.weather Rain
MATCH bad.weather Raining
MATCH bad.weather Snowing
MATCH bad.weather Blizzard
MATCH bad.weather drizzle
MATCH bad.weather drizzling
MATCH GetCase That's a bit hard to do while inside.
MATCH GetCase You glance outside.
MATCH GetCase A good positive attitude never hurts.
MATCH Exit bad
PUT observe weather
MATCHWAIT 1
goto GetCase

GetCase:
GOSUB get "my spellbook case"
GetSpellBook:
GOSUB get "my spellbook"
if $geterror$ == 0
goto start

OpenCase:
MATCH OpenCase sorry,
MATCH OpenCase ...wait
MATCH GetSpellBook You open
MATCH GetSpellBook That is already open.
MATCH OpenCase You should hold or wear that first.
PUT open my spellbook case
MATCHWAIT

TurnCase:
MATCH TurnCase sorry,
MATCH TurnCase ...wait
MATCH GetSpellBook The compartment of your spellbook case which holds a spellbook is already open
MATCH GetSpellBook You shift the partitions in your spellbook case
PUT turn my spellbook case to spellbook
MATCHWAIT

#These sections have not been modified and will not work as written in YASSE
#Unlock1:
# MATCH Unlock2 You get ([S ]+) spellbook key
# MATCH Missing2 What were you referring to?
# MATCH Unlock2 You are already holding that.
# PUT get my spellbook key
# MATCHWAIT

#Unlock2:
# MATCH Unlock3 You insert ([S ]+) spellbook key into the keyhole
# MATCH Missing2 What were you referring to?
# PUT unlock my spellbook with my spellbook key
# MATCHWAIT

#Unlock3:
# PUT stow my key
# PAUSE
# MATCH Beginning You open ([S ]+) spellbook lock
# MATCH Missing2 What were you referring to?
# PUT open my spellbook lock
# MATCHWAIT

Start:
gosub Turn chapter
gosub Turn page

Study:
MATCH Study ...wait
MATCH Study sorry,
MATCH expcheck You carefully study the notes on
PUT study my spellbook
PUT sk scholarship
MATCHWAIT

Turn:
match Turn ...wait
match Turn Sorry,
#these are preemptive matches to catch chapters you can not study for exp
MATCH done pages to the chapter entitled "Scrolls" in your
MATCH done pages to the chapter entitled "The Beseeching of Nature" in your
#this message is for turning to a page in a non-spell section that can not be studied
#add more messages above for chapters that can't be studied
match done You turn to page
MATCH done There aren't that many chapters in the
MATCH newchapter There are only
match return You turn through the
match return you turn the
PUT turn my spellbook to $w$ $$w$$
MATCHWAIT

AddPage:
calculate page add 1
return
AddChapter:
calculate chapter add 1
return

NewChapter:
setvariable page 1
gosub AddChapter
GOSUB turn chapter
goto NewPage

ExpCheck:
Getinfo scholarshipstate
if %result >33
goto done
gosub addpage
NewPage:
gosub turn page
goto study

#These sections have not been modified and will not work as written in YASSE
#Close:
# MATCH done You close
# PUT close my spellbook
# MATCHWAIT

#Close2:
# MATCH Close3 You close
# MATCH Done What were you referring to?
#put close my spell lock
# MATCHWAIT

#Close3:
# MATCH Close4 You get ([S ]+) spellbook key
# MATCH Missing2 What were you referring to?
# MATCH Close4 You are already holding that.
#put get my spellbook key
# MATCHWAIT

#Close4:
# MATCH Done You insert ([S ]+) spellbook key into the keyhole
# MATCH Missing2 What were you referring to?
#put lock my spellbook with my spellbook key
# MATCHWAIT

Done:
USER Spellbook minutes 60
MATCH stowspellcase You tuck
PUT put my spellbook in my spellbook case
MATCHWAIT
stowspellcase:
gosub stow "my spellbook case"
Exit:
calculate totaltime sub %secondsonline
CALCULATE totaltime mul -1
setvariable minutes $totaltime$
setvariable remainder $totaltime$
calculate minutes div 60
calculate remainder mod 60
printbox 265 "It took you $totaltime$ seconds. That's $minutes$.$remainder$ minutes, by the way."
EXIT

#error messages
Missing:
echo OMG WHERE IS MY SPELLBOOK!@#!!
goto Exit

Missing2:
echo OMG WHERE IS MY SPELLBOOK KEY!@#!!
goto Exit

bad.weather:
Printbox 265 "Bad weather"
exit

#common subroutines
get:
setvariable geterror 0
match get ...wait
match get sorry,
match remove But that is already in your inventory
match return You get
match return You pick up
match return You grab
match return You pour
match return You help yourself
match return You are already
match geterror1 referring to
match geterror2 You need a free hand to pick that up
match geterror3 NEED MISSING HAND MESSAGE
put get $w$
matchwait

geterror1:
printbox 265 "ERROR: No such item available!"
setvariable geterror 1
return
geterror2:
printbox 265 "ERROR: Hands are full!\nMight be a good time to call STOW."
setvariable geterror 2
return
geterror3:
printbox 265 "ERROR: You got no hands!"
setvariable geterror 3
return

stow:
match get ...wait
match get sorry,
match return You put
match return But that is already in your inventory.
match stowerror1 Stow what?
match stowerror2 You need a free hand to pick that up.
match stowerror3 too wide to fit in
match stowerror3 too long to fit in
match stowerror3 There isn't any more room
match stowerror4 I can't find your container for stowing things in!
match stowerror5 NEED CURSE MESSAGE
if $w$ contains " in "
put put $w$
else
put stow $w$
matchwait

stowerror1:
printbox 265 "ERROR: No such item available!"
setvariable stowerror 1
return
stowerror2:
printbox 265 "ERROR: You hands are full!"
setvariable stowerror 2
return
stowerror3:
printbox 265 "ERROR: Item you are stowing is to big, or container to small!"
setvariable stowerror 3
return
stowerror4:
printbox 265 "ERROR: Unknown stow container!"
setvariable stowerror 4
return
stowerror5:
printbox 265 "ERROR: Cursed item!"
setvariable stowerror 5
return

Return:
return

errorhandler:
printbox 265 "Error #$errornumber$ occurred on the line #$errorline$ : $line$"
EXIT

~Hunter Hanryu
http://drplat.com/CombatEquipmentCompendium.xls
http://tinyurl.com/HanryuTanning
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Re: More anatomy charts please 11/28/2010 09:50 AM CST
>>I still would love many more chart options, even if it's just a few additional tiers of the race charts. Like an intermediate human chart, an advanced human chart, an extremely detailed expert human chart. Something like this.

Agreed, though I'm nowhere near capping what I can learn from my compendium. I also think that perhaps an extremely advanced student could draw anatomy charts, and have tiers in the quality similar to the smoke image masteries.


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
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