I've never really had to train Scholarship seriously before, but it's one of my Lores now so them's the breaks :P

So I was hoping I could get some advice on how to train this skill? I have mid 700 ranks.

~ Leilond
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Teaching and scholarship actions both help. I've found a 3-4 person class teaching them one of the new skills (Crafting) teaches me really well, where as before if I was teaching a class of 8+ people it took me more than a half hour to lock.

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>>Buy a crafting book and study your way through it. I believe the master weaponsmithing book has the most entries, so that's your best bet. If you use bagpipes or a one-hander, you can work your Performance simultaneously.

Crafting books slowed to a trickle for me considerably at around 450 scholarship ranks. Has that changed in 3.0, or do you have a method that trains it somehow anyways?

>I've never really had to train Scholarship seriously before, but it's one of my Lores now so them's the breaks :P
So I was hoping I could get some advice on how to train this skill? I have mid 700 ranks.

Assuming you mean outside of teaching..

The high end anatomy charts from Gersvinda's Natural Studies guildfest shop http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Gersvinda%27s_Natural_Studies_(2)
You can find them on trader tables or for sale by other players occasionally.

Tried reading crafting books?

> Crafting books slowed to a trickle for me considerably at around 450 scholarship ranks. Has that changed in 3.0, or do you have a method that trains it somehow anyways?

I just study a page, then turn to the next page and repeat. Every 8 seconds I assess my instrument, and every 60 seconds I appraise my bundle. Both appraisal and scholarship lock before I finish the book.

>>Recall is mindblowingly good mobile scholarship, and didn't Raesh just open it to everyone?

While I can get from 0/34 to 2/34 or 3/34 by recalling a gryphon with low 400s scholarship, it's on a timer that pretty much prevents me from getting it any higher.

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The teeth lands a solid (5/23) hit that pokes the teeth into Turul's rear end (more embarrassing than painful!).

RECALL wasn't really a good staple for training Scholarship reliably back when I had lower ranks. Now that I have higher ranks, I didn't think it would even be a plausible option, but I could be wrong.

I honestly have no idea how well they scale now given Raesh's most recent tweaks. Are you saying you can train Scholarship at high ranks well with the new RECALL?

~ Leilond
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Except for HISTORY, EVOKE and AREA, recalls are no longer skill based and don't teach.

GENT

My favorite scholarship learning place is the artwork in Raven's Court in Crossings. I seriously wish there were more places like this, not only for the convenience of training but also the really cool items in there.

Nikpack

Just tried a crafting book, and it indeed seemed to be working fine, nice. Not sure what issue I had before, perhaps I didn't observe it long enough.

>>Recall <creature> teaches.

There must be some calculations involved then, because I couldn't move it off 0/34 with recall critter.

Technically there is no longer "Recall History" - it merged into the baseline "Recall" system. That can be used on an area (with just "Recall"), a creature (Recall <creature>), a player, a thing, whatever. This is exactly how Evoke works right now.

Currently the area ones aren't converted, so you won't be able to access those. Any of the above are contested and if the challenge is within a (fairly generous) range of your skill you'll learn. Once you've learned there's a 15 minute timer until you can learn from any of them again.

Recall is not meant to be the backbone of a training regime, but what you get from using the system more naturally should be a useful supplement.

Balancing it is tricky (and it may not be even close to right at the moment). I don't want people to feel like they need to sit near a recall of their proper level and just recall it over and over to learn scholarship, but I want there to be a decent reward for when people do find them.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

I personally like doing first fold of an origami pattern, I swear it's been a little faster for me than a crafting book, but it obviously requires you to figure out and then get the correct pattern and have a lot of paper handy.