I was seeing better than usual congruence signals too, but only congruence. Can you do the same with a decay sigil, for example?

Out of curiosity, what are your skills, which buffs, and how many hours of farming did I it take?

TL;DR: So I've been doing some testing, and I'm convinced you've just had astronomical luck. It's so ridiculously high that I don't see repeating this unless there are secondary factors at play.

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For sake of argument, let's ignore all of the ways the system can screw you over.

Potential Points Of Failure (other than the game itself):

- Initial precision is low (Range: 1-15 - low starting points GREATLY decrease your chance).

- Critical failures on an improve attempt (prematurely blow up the sigil).

- Danger gets too high due to not being presented with enough precision improvements (too many steps, indirectly affects quality)

- Low C/P ratios (pool cost / precision).

- Being left with a low number of stars in a single pool (wasted precision options, increases danger). Trivial still will work 33% of the time with 1 star, but straightforward requires 2, challenging/formidable 4, and difficult 7, minimum, with an option to blow up if they're in the upper ranges.

Additional Assumptions:

- Assume secondary sigils are not inherently more difficult than primary sigils (they seem to be).

- Assume one pool is not more heavily weighted than the others (and thus indirectly increases danger).

- Assume the sigil feats are turned on and working as intended (I'm still not convinced they are).

- Assume there aren't unseen, complicating factors such as location, time of day, or season.


Why This Still Seems Unlikely:

Now. Assuming you don't have ANY of those problems, you still only have 45 points to work with. That means, in an ideal situation, you need an average of 1.86 - 2.178 C/P (pool cost / precision improvement) to hit the 99 precision mark. I took a sampling of the last 100 improve attempts on multiple decay sigils. Here's what I'm seeing. (C/P data)

- Minimum: 0.29

- Maximum: 3.00

- Average (total): 1.62*

- Total % > 1.86**: 37%

- Total % >= 2.178**: 14%

*Note that if none of the potential points of failure existed (beyond just using the bucket), one would expect to get to find 75-85 precision sigils regularly. This just doesn't happen. Most sigils are in the 40s range, with some in the 50s, and very rarely in the 70s and 80s. I don't see how someone would expect to find multiple 99 quality sigils with these numbers with any sort of regularity. At least 50% of the time, you'd

**Note that % is misleading here, but I can't think of a better way to represent it. You need several high value, high impact improves. Multiple trivial improves with very high C/P ratios (critical success) will still blow up before they get to the desired range.

Data: https://pastebin.com/u2ZbSZUT

Suggestions For Improvement. All would be great. Any would be nice.

- Raise the floor for new sigils. Always start them at 15.

- Only blow up a sigil when danger >= 18.

- Give another source for sigils, or improving sigils.

- Reduce the range of improvement attempts to always be the minimum. No more 1-3 stars for trivial.

- Have a GM look at and confirm the sigil feats are enabled, and also confirm if some sigils will be harder to improve than others.

- Create a way where moving points from one bucket to another (ie: sanity > resolve) will always be a net positive. This lets danger be the only "gotcha" you have to watch, and it makes the game more engaging.

- Create a series of non-signature spells (or tie into existing spells) to reduce the cost/danger/RNG of certain actions. eg: having mental focus up reduces focus costs or increases focus pool to 20. Divine Guidance/new spell for sanity. Redeemer's Pride for resolve. Aura Sight could increase the starting quality. Finesse could add a few points when you scribe it. Or just a set of new spells entirely sprinkled around or AP.

Well here are a few tips that might help:

1. Don't bother with sigils that start at anything lower than 11 or 12 precision. Find 15 or so rooms with the sigil you want. Make a script that goes to each one and pauses when it finds a good one. Then just pause the script and improve the sigil.

2. You can still improve with max danger. Did it three times in a row once. Very unlikely but possible. Increased luck "might" help. You can also keep improving at max danger without risk until you find the desired thing you want to improve. The drawback is you will keep losing clarity.

3. Don't worry about clarity when precision sigil hunting unless it's lower than 50 or 60. I've made plenty of mastercrafted items with low clarity sigils.

4. Avoid trivial and straightforward unless you don't have enough stars to do a challenging or difficult. I'm iffy on formidable. Sometimes it will use up a lot of stars for only 4 precision but you could get 9 or so.

Hope this helps a little. Still ALOT of luck involved.

The 90 integration I mentioned getting in my reply above was a secondary sigil. Easy to mistake with induction. :)

Danger increases at the same rate whether you improve, approach, or whatever. You can do it 6 times before you see the first danger star and 13 until you get to the max 18 danger stars. There is a bug with ACTION where it might not work the first two times you try it but danger is still increased.

Increasing challenging and difficult is just a strategy of mine. I figure that if you only get 13 or so to play with then using it on trivial or straightforward is a waste except in special circumstances since it only increases precision a small amount. Also if you are just increasing challenging and difficult then you just need to be lucky (getting 15 or 16 on a difficult for example) 6 or so times instead of however many it would take to get to a high number with trivial and straightforward.

>All said, I've managed to find about 1-2 80-85 sigils after 8-10 hours of farming. Not great, honestly, but it may be on par with rare metal finds from mining.

For reference, assuming that ultra-rare are the equivalent of the mythic 99 sigil, based on 8012 rooms prospected so far I have found ultra-rare veins 3 times. That puts my chance of proc'ing a useful metal at less than 0.09%. The average of my last 5 prospect run (171 mine rooms) is 88.23 minutes. So I've spent roughly 250 hours to find 60 volumes of material.

~Hunter Hanryu
>I would like to avoid the collection of broken dreams and sorrow that is the Ranger guild.~Agalea

I tend to agree that sigil precision is erring on the side of too low right now. Maybe it'll get better if the remaining harvesting techniques get turned on. It seems a little off to me that the sigil precision starts so low in the first place though. I feel like it should be possible, even common, to be able to get store-bought level without having to go through the improvement process. Maybe 15-30 would be a better starting range?

Thanks,
-Biomancer Karthor