Because dying out in the boonies and losing my hard earned favors it is tiring! I'm having issues though. I simply don't know what to do, and I can't find the instructions in the book telling me what to do. Take for instance Itch Salve, Chapter 2, Page 2.


Some itch salve is a craftable item in the Alchemy society under the Remedies crafting discipline. This is considered to be a very easy piece to make, though knowledge of the Wound Remedy Basics technique will be beneficial to the crafter.

This item is listed as a "basic wound remedy" ingredient type and is created using a mortar and pestle to crush or a cooking pot and stirring rod to mix. A crafter may also find it helpful to have a sieve, some water and alcohol, and a fire if mixing on hand.

A list of ingredients is provided:

(5) prepared herb (pieces per use, known to provide minor external healing over the entire body)
(1) splash of water
(1) prepared herb (pieces total, known to heal external wounds of the limbs)
(1) catalyst material

That being said. WHAT DO I DO. do i use it in a mortar and pestle to crush red flowers? Do I put it in a cooking pot? Where do i get fire for a cooking pot? Do I put everything in one bowl and stir? I can't seem to put water in my mortar with my red flower in it.

My ire may be because i'm babied on the matter of crafting from Shaping so much utilizing the information on the elanthipedia page, where it gives instructions on what you have to do to begin production.

>>The first step is to turn your shaping book to the desired chapter and page, then STUDY it. If making an item with variable design then the first step is to turn your design codex to the desired chapter and page and STUDY it before studying the page in the shaping book. After that, SCRAPE <lumber> WITH DRAWKNIFE and then switch to a carving knife and CARVE <object> WITH KNIFE until the item is complete or a problem is reached.

Looking on the Alchemy page there isn't any starting instructions (that I see) on how to go about it. :(

Hi,

Ok first things first look at the guide - https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Remedies_Player_Guide

In the guide its recommended you either print out chapter 1 of the book or copy it out and put it in a file. What I did was log reading each page of chapter 1 for all the herbs. And then saved it as a file to either print or just bring up when I used it. This really is needed so you can see which herb is needed based on the list of ingredients needed. The itch salve as you pointed out shows the following:

A list of ingredients is provided:

(5) prepared herb (pieces per use, known to provide minor external healing over the entire body)
(1) splash of water
(1) prepared herb (pieces total, known to heal external wounds of the limbs)
(1) catalyst material

Now what are the prepared herbs used in the itch salve. Notice this part - , known to provide minor external healing over the entire body) - That part tells you exactly what herb it is but till you get used to what its saying you need to keep this list. Note the minor external healing over the entire body is the red flowers which need to be dried. Basic rule of thumb all remedies that use an external herb need to have that herb dried. All remedies that use an internal herb have to have the herb crushed. The second herb in the itch salve needs to heal external wounds of the limbs. The list from chapter one tells you that is Jadice flowers which since its an external herb needs to be dried. If you make a single dose of itch salve you use 5 parts of dried red flowers and 1 part dried jadice flowers, 1 part water, 1 part catalyst. If you make a 5 dose version use 25 parts of dried red flowers, 1 part dried jadice flowers, 1 part water, and 1 part catalyst.

If you read chapter 1 of your remedy book you will find this list in that book. I would copy this section out and put it where you can get at it easily.

A short list of herbs known to general problems is provided:

Red Flower - minor external healing over the entire body
Blue Flower - minor internal healing over the entire body

A short list of herbs known to heal external wounds is provided:

Nemoih Root - external head wounds
Jadice Flower - external limb wounds
Plovik Leaf - external chest wounds
Nilos Grass - external abdomen wounds
Georin Grass - external neck wounds
Hulnik Grass - external back wounds
Sufil Sap - external eye wounds
Aloe Leaf - external skin and nerve wounds

A short list of herbs known to heal internal wounds is provided:

Eghmok Moss - internal head wounds
Yelith Root - internal limb wounds
Ithor Root - internal chest wounds
Muljin Sap - internal abdomen wounds
Riolur Leaf - internal neck wounds
Junliar Stem - internal back wounds
Aevaes Leaf - internal eye wounds
Lujeakave Root - internal skin and nerve wounds

A short list of herbs known to heal external scars is provided:

Qun Pollen - external head, neck and eye scars
Genich Stem - external body scars
Blocil Berries - external limb scars
Cebi Root - external skin and nerve scars
Dioca Sap - external entire body scars

A short list of herbs known to heal internal scars is provided:

Hulij Leaf - internal head, neck and eye scars
Ojhenik Root - internal body scars
Nuloe Stem - internal limb scars
Hisan Flower - internal skin and nerve scars
Belradi Moss - internal entire body scars

Please note that junliar stem, when foraged, does not work. The only way to do a remedy with junliar stem is to buy it already crushed in one of the society buildings. Note the quality of the crushed junliar you buy is not top notch either so make sure you can use whats there well enough to get the quality you need.

Now the second part is water. You buy that at the alchemy society. Its a 10 part item so you use one part of it when you use it. The Catalysts possible are as follows: niniam, muracite, electrum, pewter, seolarn weed (crushed), coal, niello and orichalcum. Niniam can only be mined. Muracite can be mined and found on critters. Electrum mined and found on critters. Pewter found on critters and made (3 tin:2 lead), and thus also mined. Seolarn foraged. Coal bought in forging society and mined. Niello and orachilum are quest only items. This means pewter, seolarn weed crushed, and coal are the early catalyst you can use and of those three coal has the least toxicity. Early on when you don't have much skill workability plays a huge part in making things. The higher the workability the better off you are in completion of the remedy. Now also the prices of the items affect how much you get paid too if you do work orders. Check the guide at the link I gave and read up on this in the guide.

The guide also gives the steps you follow: MY rule of thumb in how I do it, is if its a solid (salve, ungent, cream, balm, ointment, or poultice, then its a solid and you use mortar and pestle. If its a potion, tonic, wash, elixir, or draught, then its a liquid and you use the mixing bowl and mixing stick. Though I'm pretty sure you can also use the mortar with a mixing stick.

So bottom line. Read the guide it helps. Folks have gone through the steps and they are listed in the guide.

Ranger Pfanston and his soggy pup.

>>BADGOPHER: The crafting books have introductions, and chapter 1 instructions.
Pfanston already told you what to do, but when in doubt, read the instructions.

Thanks for assuming i haven't read the book at all. If not multiple times, before this post.

>> ILLIENA: Basically, recipes that are based on *external herbs use mortar and pestle*, while recipes based on internal herbs use a bowl and mixing stick.

>>LAWREYJRJ7: Basic rule of thumb all remedies that use an external herb need to have that herb dried. All remedies that use an *internal herb have to have the herb crushed.*

Already we have conflicting information from different people.

I've already read the alchemy book, i've read the guide. I was TOLD BY PFANSTON that if its for external you use a dried herb (like a red flower), and if its internal you use a crushed herb (like the blue flower). It explains thus on chapter 1 page 1.

The part of the Remedy Guide, which I already read, about the beginning processes.

>>Remedy Basics
The first two steps are always the same. The following steps after the first two can occur in any order. Note, if you are making a salve, ointment, balm, ungent, or some solid, you use the mortar and pestle and crush it. If you are making a tonic, potion, draught, or some liquid, you use the bowl and mixing stick and mix it.

IF I AM MAKING AN EXTERNAL HEALING ITEM I USE A MORTAR AND PESTLE NOW?? Likewise if i'm making an internal healing item I dont crush it in a mortar and pestle.

Was that a goof on that part, i'm not sure.

You get a polished gloamstone pestle from inside your steelsilk pack.
>crush my riolur with my pestle
You stop, realizing that type of plant requires a cooking pot and mixing stick.


The system even tells you if you're doing it wrong. Take a breath, it's really not that bad.

Also this site is very helpful.

http://www.kythsjournal.com/alchemy.htm

> Well.

In his defense, that foreword is wrong.

> To prepare a remedy first study the page of instructions describing it. Then fill the mortar or cauldron with whatever liquid is required. Next, put the ingredients into the mortar or cauldron and begin crushing them with a pestle or stirring them with a stirring rod.

This says you add the water or alcohol before the first action. You don't.

I think Caraamon probably covers alchemy in his crafting social. Sometimes it helps to have assistance in person when you can get it.


CRAFTING SOCIAL: The first and third Monday of every month at 11:00 PM Eastern -- all crafters and aspiring crafters are invited to set aside their tools, stop slaving over a hot forge and join the Mentor Society for a biweekly Crafting Social - artisans and beginners from all crafts are welcome. This social is held just outside the Crossing Forging Society.

This Monday is the third Monday.


"Brace yourselves, Squanto is going to bleh blah fart fart bleh.." -the player of the character formerly known as Pureblade

..so.. since i'm using a red flower, external wound healing...

i put it in a bowl? and mix it with a stick? to begin?

If i want to make Moisture Cream

A list of ingredients is provided:

(5) prepared herb (pieces per use, known to provide minor external healing over the entire body)
(1) splash of alcohol
(1) prepared herb (pieces total, known to heal external wounds of the chest)
(1) catalyst material

And i wanted 5 doses of it. would I put 25 dried red flowers into it, and 5 dried Plovik leaf into it, and then begin to crush it?

>>>> And i wanted 5 doses of it. would I put 25 dried red flowers into it, and 5 dried Plovik leaf into it, and then begin to crush it?

No. You put the dried red flowers in and start crushing. You will be told when to add the water, the dried plovik and the catalyst later.

>>>> So i have to put the next herb in before I can sieve?

Yes, it is sort of clunky like that sometimes.

I think alchemy's setup suffered from trying to incorporate too much of the old system. I hope that someday in a misty future it can get a makeover to better match the awesomeness of other crafts.

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