As a general SoI question, I'm curious why Warmies, a weapon secondary, don't have Small Edge and Blunt on their weapon SoI?

Actually, I'm confused what SoI is in reference to at all I suppose.

Sad to see light thrown leave our naptha-slingin' selves SOI.

Right, so;
> Like, does this mean Ignite when cast on a Small Edge weapon will not buff the weapon as well as Ignite when cast on a Large Edge weapon?

>>As a general SoI question, I'm curious why Warmies, a weapon secondary, don't have Small Edge and Blunt on their weapon SoI?

Because when I revised them each guild only gets a certain % of their secondary skill set in SoI. In the case of small edge and small blunt every guild wanted them (small edge in particular) and I was making an honest attempt to spread things out a little more.

Could they be in SoI for Warrior Mages? Sure - but you'd have to drop another skill in it's place and the others seem more thematically fitting.

>>Like, does this mean Ignite when cast on a Small Edge weapon will not buff the weapon as well as Ignite when cast on a Large Edge weapon?

Ignite is not a skill booster and does not interact with SoI in any way.

>>Sad to see light thrown leave our naptha-slingin' selves SOI.

Yeah, I really thought about that one for awhile, but it comes down to the above statement. Also keep in mind weapon skill SoI doesn't matter much right now since there are very few actual weapon skill boosters.

I also have a proposal for a spell to let Warrior Mages soak people with naphtha through TM - so that may fill your pyromantic needs should it come about.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

>I also have a proposal for a spell to let Warrior Mages soak people with naphtha through TM - so that may fill your pyromantic needs

Does PW no longer deliver naphtha? Or would this spell create the naphtha for delivery?

Elemental Lord Opieus, Master Warrior Mage of Elanthia
"For a bunch of radical empiricists, the Philosophers' system relies on a whole lot of faith." ~Armifer

Not sure how this spell idea is gonna work, but it sounds amazing.


Also, PW is still delivering naphtha currently in test.

>>Future development, Casting spells from other guilds, etc.

Yeah. Using scroll spells in 3.0 sounds like it is built to be a lot more commonplace, and who knows what stuff we'll be doing with enchanting/alchemy.

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>>Does PW no longer deliver naphtha?

I have no idea - I was unaware it could do that.

>>Or would this spell create the naphtha for delivery?

That's the ticket. But let's not derail on a proposed post 3.0 launch spell please.

>>Curious; so, Warmies only have two weapon boosting skills that I know of (and I'm not sure if they're the same in 3.0), SW (parry) and TW (Ranged weapons). If Stickbows and LT aren't in our SoI, does TW only buff 75%?

Tailwind is a ranged accuracy boost, not a skill booster. SoI has no impact.

>>Does SW only boost parrying with a non-SoI weapon 75% as well as it'd boost with a SoI weapon?

A Parry boost is a Parry boost, it doesn't care what weapon you're using.

Of course it's worth pointing out Swirling Winds isn't a parry booster in 3.0 - it's evasion/ref.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

i'm also surprised an armor tert guild has SOI to bows and not crossbows, as WM can't wear shield and use a bow, but you can use crossbow with a shield.


<<The real thing DR needs is to get out there to the kids who actually read books.>>

SoIs are not designed with mix/maxing in mind, otherwise everyone would have shield usage, parry, evasion, one armor type and so forth.

They're designed to match things thematically important to the guild (And in the grand scope of things they also have fairly little impact).

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

>>Does PW no longer deliver naphtha?

It still does up to 2 vials/bottles, also if you reverse someone's PW with AC(essentially doing what they wanted), it'll pull any naphtha you're holding at the caster(as if you had casted normally.)
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>>also if you reverse someone's PW with AC(essentially doing what they wanted), it'll pull any naphtha you're holding at the caster(as if you had casted normally.)

Ooh :) Now while I didn't mind that PW reflected the effect and ending up doing what it would have done anyways, I'm intrigued by the idea of having naphtha fly back at the caster. Something just made my list.

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>>Be nice if we could maybe metaspell it to give ourselves a RT when we cast similar to a throw of it that would also ignite it in the name of condensing down the number of actions required. Throwing then a spell is a lot easier because you can prep and target the spell and then throw->cast and have them hit almost at the same time.

2 methods come to my immediate mind-

1: prep ignite, cast weapon, target pw, get nap, barrage

2: prep moa, cast, target pw, get nap, cast

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I have yet to have an ignite imbued weapon ignite naphtha for me :(

- Starlear -

As a moon mage Im prone to self destruction but Ive yet to really figure out what the point of Incinerate would be if it kills the user. The scrolls are incredibly hard to find (that may not remain the case) and theres a huge chance of not finding a cleric to rezz to retain the spell. So basically youd be able to use the spell once... Not to mention even if you find a cleric you lose all gained xp and you have to wait for what Im going to imagine is healing on the botched teleport scale before the cleric even brings you back. Im all for reworking the spell but I sure hope it doesnt turn into a self explode. That just sounds like a cop out in designing dangerous spells.

~Tezirite Renzar Lorrani

"Power is merely a stepping stone to more power."

Tried sleeping on it. Still don't see bows as a thematically appropriate weapon for warmages. Maybe it's just me though.

>>Spells are meant to be used not horded.

Consider it like a Super Naphtha? You expend it and it's Awesome, and then it's gone and you have to get more.

~ Leilond
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> I have to throw up an objection here. I realize for purposes of balance what you're saying, but why give us mech? Talking about thematics, the guild is called the "Warrior" Mage guild.

Every lore secondary gets mech. The new SOI formulas are 100% of your primary skillset, ~60% of each secondary skillset, ~20% of each tertiary skillset. Lore is currently 10 skills, but will drop to 9 when Mech mech gets put on a bus. That means lore secondaries need 10*.6 = 6 skills now, but 9*.6 = 5 skills later. So the number of lore skills you're supposed to have should drop by 1 when mech leaves. Simplest way to make that happen is to make mech one of your lore skills.

> Why aren't our weapons in the middle as opposed to the bottom tier?

You get ~60% just like every other secondary.

Every time you explain the mech thing to a lore secondary guild for me I owe you another cookie.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

borrow one from Abasha. They're heart-shaped.




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