Advanced Warding Spell 11/23/2012 03:20 PM CST
Any chance of getting an advanced Warding spell for necros? Or possibly modifying one of the existing two to make it advanced and / or cyclic (WORM)?

CH works ok for training if I drain my attunement numerous times - seems like there should be a better way?

- Kart / Rhoat
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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/23/2012 03:27 PM CST
>>Any chance of getting an advanced Warding spell for necros? Or possibly modifying one of the existing two to make it advanced and / or cyclic (WORM)?

AFAIK, CH is an advanced ward. It being listed as basic on the spreadsheet is an error.

That said, you shouldn't explicitly need an advanced to train warding. You could learn just as well using WORM despite it being esoteric. If anything, it teaches even better.



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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 12:22 PM CST
>>AFAIK, CH is an advanced ward. It being listed as basic on the spreadsheet is an error.

Now that mana is fixed this is MUCH more functional - would still be nice to have a few more warding options, but I have no problem spamming CH until its locked (other than the DO hit?). WORM is a great spell, but not really practical for training IMO since it's primary function is intended & successful at specifically stopping casting (until you dispel it using another spell, of course).

I still say WORM should be cyclic - does it make sense to have to cast another spell to dispel a spell that's intended to prevent you from casting spells - in order to learn how to better cast spells?

That seems pretty cyclic to me...

- Kart / Rhoat
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Debilitation 11/24/2012 12:40 PM CST

Anyone have advice on learning DEB ? Im casting our 2 most advanced at cap , VOD and VS. VOD with multi-targets. Back to back Im not learning much of anything <1/34>
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Re: Debilitation 11/24/2012 01:10 PM CST
Generally, higher mana casts will give you a higher exp return, but you also must be casting at something that is challenging for your ranks.


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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 01:17 PM CST
>>Now that mana is fixed this is MUCH more functional - would still be nice to have a few more warding options,

Keep in mind that we do have access to Lay Ward and Manifest Force, too.



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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 01:28 PM CST
>>Keep in mind that we do have access to Lay Ward and Manifest Force, too.

Good news - I didnt realize MAF was Warding but it makes sense. I didnt even know Lay Ward existed. Thanks for the info -

Is there a comprehensive spell list somewhere that contains accurate info on all spells? I've had misinformation about several things here recently (CH is advanced, LayWard & MAF are Warding spells, etc.)...

- Kart / Rhoat
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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 01:47 PM CST
>>Good news - I didnt realize MAF was Warding but it makes sense. I didnt even know Lay Ward existed. Thanks for the info

Anytime!

As an aside, Caraamon dumped the spell lists into epedia and I've been bumping up their sortability, so people could theoretically do something like go "what are the advanced warding spells in my guild?" and find out. All you need to do is click "difficulty" and then "skills" to have it show up as an ordered list that shows things like "debilitation from intro to esoteric" or whatever.

Best part is that since I play a Necro, I care about them most, so they got the first sortable list!

http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Spell_List_3.0



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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 02:28 PM CST
>>http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Spell_List_3.0

Very nice. Thanks again :)

- Kart / Rhoat
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Re: Advanced Warding Spell 11/24/2012 03:54 PM CST
>>Generally, higher mana casts will give you a higher exp return, but you also must be casting at something that is challenging for your ranks.

Thanks. I knew I had to do this with target but didn't consider trying it with VOD and VS. Seems I have to go Up the critter ladder with 3.0 .

>>http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Spell_List_3.0

You guys are awesome !
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