Listing player breakdown by profile setting.
12/4/2009 06:20:17 PM
550 active players.
350 closed players. These players make up 63.64% of total active counted.
107 guarded players. These players make up 19.45% of total active counted.
93 open players. These players make up 16.91% of total active counted.
DAENAR-DR
KROONERMANREVENGE
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:29 PM CST
I'm not trolling, but why does this matter?
I'm under no illusion about people who set open being 'better' RPs than people who set closed or moderate or waffle.
And I set all my chars to open.
I'm under no illusion about people who set open being 'better' RPs than people who set closed or moderate or waffle.
And I set all my chars to open.
DAENAR-DR
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:38 PM CST
>> I'm not trolling, but why does this matter?
>> I'm under no illusion about people who set open being 'better' RPs than people who set closed or moderate or waffle.
>> And I set all my chars to open.
Bro, it has nothing to do with closed vs open vs guarded. It was simply information.
Relax.
>> I'm under no illusion about people who set open being 'better' RPs than people who set closed or moderate or waffle.
>> And I set all my chars to open.
Bro, it has nothing to do with closed vs open vs guarded. It was simply information.
Relax.
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:42 PM CST
>>I'm under no illusion about people who set open being 'better' RPs than people who set closed or moderate or waffle.
This would put you in the minority of self-crowned "good" roleplayers.
I'm not suggesting there is or is not a correlation between being set open and being a good rp'er, but there is definitely a mindset of such.
This would put you in the minority of self-crowned "good" roleplayers.
I'm not suggesting there is or is not a correlation between being set open and being a good rp'er, but there is definitely a mindset of such.
ROBERTDH
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:43 PM CST
I'm still pretty sure most players simply don't know about Profile.
"...I am inclined to think the focus of the [Warmage's] spellbook should be ways to make things explode, to help you make things explode, or to assist your victim in exploding." -Armifer
"...I am inclined to think the focus of the [Warmage's] spellbook should be ways to make things explode, to help you make things explode, or to assist your victim in exploding." -Armifer
DIMINISHEDANGEL
GUTTERBUNNY
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:52 PM CST
Ideally the default PVP option would be "None" instead of Closed so we could tell the difference between genuine Closed people and those who just didn't bother. I also think people who haven't touched their profile should get prompted every so many in-game hours.
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
DAENAR-DR
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 09:57 PM CST
>>Ideally the default PVP option would be "None" instead of Closed so we could tell the difference between genuine Closed people and those who just didn't bother. I also think people who haven't touched their profile should get prompted every so many in-game hours.
This. I believe Solomon has mentioned it but its probably a low priority.
This. I believe Solomon has mentioned it but its probably a low priority.
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 10:05 PM CST
>>Ideally the default PVP option would be "None" instead of Closed so we could tell the difference between genuine Closed people and those who just didn't bother. I also think people who haven't touched their profile should get prompted every so many in-game hours.
Profile is an optional tool for use to enhance or customize your gaming experience, just like demeanor and avoids. It shouldn't be mandatory, though I think 'None' sounds like a good idea.
Profile is an optional tool for use to enhance or customize your gaming experience, just like demeanor and avoids. It shouldn't be mandatory, though I think 'None' sounds like a good idea.
GUTTERBUNNY
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 10:11 PM CST
>Profile is an optional tool for use to enhance or customize your gaming experience, just like demeanor and avoids. It shouldn't be mandatory, though I think 'None' sounds like a good idea.
Adding periodic prompts would not make it mandatory. You could certainly choose to ignore them. They could even be made to only show up when you login, like when NEWS is updated.
The point here is to reach the people who aren't aware of the Profile system or how it works, not to pester people who choose not to use it.
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
Adding periodic prompts would not make it mandatory. You could certainly choose to ignore them. They could even be made to only show up when you login, like when NEWS is updated.
The point here is to reach the people who aren't aware of the Profile system or how it works, not to pester people who choose not to use it.
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
DGUTHRIE2
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 10:36 PM CST
>>I'm still pretty sure most players simply don't know about Profile.<<
Sometimes I wonder if it's the difference between ignorance and apathy. I know about profile, therefore I'm not ignorant of it, but I simply don't care and therefore I'm apathetic. Profile is completely meaningless to me.
________________________________________
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You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.
Solomon
Sometimes I wonder if it's the difference between ignorance and apathy. I know about profile, therefore I'm not ignorant of it, but I simply don't care and therefore I'm apathetic. Profile is completely meaningless to me.
________________________________________
<<DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG. >>
You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.
Solomon
DR-ANNWYL
Re: Who full profile breakdown ::MOVED::
12/04/2009 11:03 PM CST
Gang,
This thread was moved here from General Discussion.
Kindly keep the Profile discussion here so the interested GameMasters can find it.
Thanks!
Annwyl
Message Board Supervisor
If you've questions or comments, take it to e-mail by writing me at DR-Annwyl@play.net.
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:10 PM CST
>>Adding periodic prompts would not make it mandatory. You could certainly choose to ignore them. They could even be made to only show up when you login, like when NEWS is updated.
Agree with the spirit of the suggestion, but the prompts would be mandatory even if setting them isn't. They could be squelched, but still...
Agree with the spirit of the suggestion, but the prompts would be mandatory even if setting them isn't. They could be squelched, but still...
GUTTERBUNNY
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:29 PM CST
I understand your point. However, I'd like to point out...
WELCOME ALL WEB USERS!
******************IMPORTANT!********************
Closing the WIZARD front end does NOT necessarily mean your
Character will be dropped from the game! To ensure
that your character is disconnected type QUIT or EXIT!
******************IMPORTANT!********************
I doubt adding a reminder to the info received at logon is going to bother anyone. Most of us have been ignoring the above for almost a decade.
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
WELCOME ALL WEB USERS!
******************IMPORTANT!********************
Closing the WIZARD front end does NOT necessarily mean your
Character will be dropped from the game! To ensure
that your character is disconnected type QUIT or EXIT!
******************IMPORTANT!********************
I doubt adding a reminder to the info received at logon is going to bother anyone. Most of us have been ignoring the above for almost a decade.
~ Vien De'Lionne
"Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success."
DAENAR-DR
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:33 PM CST
>> Agree with the spirit of the suggestion, but the prompts would be mandatory even if setting them isn't. They could be squelched, but still...
It could also be similar to the PIN spam. 1-2 days then gone.
It could also be similar to the PIN spam. 1-2 days then gone.
JOMBODOLO
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:50 PM CST
The last thing we need is even more spam when we first log onto the game. Putting profile reminders in there would just lead to more stuff being put in. I'm in the group of people who know of profiles, but don't care enough to actually mess with it. I'd rather not have something pop up at me every time I log on. If anything just have a profile alert pop up when you first create a new character so people are at least made aware of their existance.
ROB19700
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:51 PM CST
I don't see someones Open or Closed stance, having anything to do with their role-playing!
IDONS-BUDDY
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/04/2009 11:52 PM CST
People should only be allowed to set their PvP stance one step away from their RP stance.
i.e. no more heavy-closed people.
Rev. Reene
"When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." - Dak'kon
i.e. no more heavy-closed people.
Rev. Reene
"When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." - Dak'kon
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:00 AM CST
>>I doubt adding a reminder to the info received at logon is going to bother anyone. Most of us have been ignoring the above for almost a decade.
Going to have to just agree to disagree on this one. I agree educating people with game features like PROFILE is a good idea; I think it would just be another thing they ignored if a message popped up reminding them to set profile, avoids, and demeanor every time they logged in.
Going to have to just agree to disagree on this one. I agree educating people with game features like PROFILE is a good idea; I think it would just be another thing they ignored if a message popped up reminding them to set profile, avoids, and demeanor every time they logged in.
DAENAR-DR
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:04 AM CST
>>Going to have to just agree to disagree on this one. I agree educating people with game features like PROFILE is a good idea; I think it would just be another thing they ignored if a message popped up reminding them to set profile, avoids, and demeanor every time they logged in.
That's because you're not new. You need to put yourselves in their shoes... I read EVERYTHING when I was new. Just a thought.
That's because you're not new. You need to put yourselves in their shoes... I read EVERYTHING when I was new. Just a thought.
DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:04 AM CST
>>That's because you're not new. You need to put yourselves in their shoes... I read EVERYTHING when I was new. Just a thought.
Most of the player base is ignorant of PROFILE because they are new?
Most of the player base is ignorant of PROFILE because they are new?
DWARB-POWER
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:05 AM CST
It really depends on how the display is featured. If they make it so you are required to put in your profile settings to some degree before continuing, then that's pretty straightforward. Depends on how important it is for it to be known and utilized.
- Simon
- Simon
IDONS-BUDDY
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:06 AM CST
A nudge on log-in to set your profile will not hurt anything.
Rev. Reene
"When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." - Dak'kon
Rev. Reene
"When a mind does not know itself, it is flawed. When a mind is flawed, the man is flawed. When a man is flawed, that which he touches is flawed. It is said that what a flawed man sees, his hands make broken." - Dak'kon
LORZELOPHIA
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:06 AM CST
>>Most of the player base is ignorant of PROFILE because they are new?
Because they don't read the boards, I imagine.
-- Player of Szrael --
"Necromancy is Bad" (GM Armifer)
Because they don't read the boards, I imagine.
-- Player of Szrael --
"Necromancy is Bad" (GM Armifer)
DAENAR-DR
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 01:15 AM CST
>>That's because you're not new. You need to put yourselves in their shoes... I read EVERYTHING when I was new. Just a thought.
>>Most of the player base is ignorant of PROFILE because they are new?
You're right. They probably aren't all new. I was basing my argument off your idea that people ignore spam etc.
People won't ignore something "new" that pops up. In fact, you might be able to argue that people tune the words out because its the same thing every day. Add a new message and I bet they might read it.
>>Most of the player base is ignorant of PROFILE because they are new?
You're right. They probably aren't all new. I was basing my argument off your idea that people ignore spam etc.
People won't ignore something "new" that pops up. In fact, you might be able to argue that people tune the words out because its the same thing every day. Add a new message and I bet they might read it.
JOMBODOLO
GABRIELBLACK
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 03:09 AM CST
set profile, check.
set demeanor, check.
set smell, check.
Alexii points at a Velakan slaver and shouts, "Another one! Don't let it get away!"
set demeanor, check.
set smell, check.
Alexii points at a Velakan slaver and shouts, "Another one! Don't let it get away!"
PBOMBARD
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/05/2009 07:48 AM CST
>set profile, check.
>set demeanor, check.
>set smell, check.
There's so many of these, that maybe a reminder for all of them would be useful.
Don't forget the friend list, that goes along with demeanor.
-pete
>set demeanor, check.
>set smell, check.
There's so many of these, that maybe a reminder for all of them would be useful.
Don't forget the friend list, that goes along with demeanor.
-pete
DR-SOCHARIS
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/11/2009 01:23 AM CST
(late)
From this discussion, it seems like it would be neat to have some kind of UI element that could tell you something neat you can do, like PROFILE, or a verb you might not know about, or something like that.
--
"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.
From this discussion, it seems like it would be neat to have some kind of UI element that could tell you something neat you can do, like PROFILE, or a verb you might not know about, or something like that.
--
"The ninety and nine are with dreams, content but the hope of the world made new, is the hundredth man who is grimly bent on making those dreams come true." -E.A.P.
PBOMBARD
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/11/2009 05:31 AM CST
>From this discussion, it seems like it would be neat to have some kind of UI element that could tell you something neat you can do, like PROFILE, or a verb you might not know about, or something like that.
Tip Of The Day window w/ a new tip every login?
Could have submissions on the boards with a couple new boards... One to suggest tips and another to discuss the suggestions.
-pete
Tip Of The Day window w/ a new tip every login?
Could have submissions on the boards with a couple new boards... One to suggest tips and another to discuss the suggestions.
-pete
WISECRACKDRAGON
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/14/2009 11:19 AM CST
I like this idea. Also support profile defaulting to unset for RP/PvP (with unset being unchooseable after you change it) and RP settings being capped at one level higher than the PvP setting.
I find it odd that you can be surrounded by both a mantle of flame and blades of ice.
Shush, it's magic.. suspend your disbelief
I find it odd that you can be surrounded by both a mantle of flame and blades of ice.
Shush, it's magic.. suspend your disbelief
ROBERTDH
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/14/2009 04:02 PM CST
>...and RP settings being capped at one level higher than the PvP setting.
I like how this would cause me to lie to other players about what level of OOC conversation I find acceptable.
Awesome suggestion.
"...I am inclined to think the focus of the [Warmage's] spellbook should be ways to make things explode, to help you make things explode, or to assist your victim in exploding." -Armifer
I like how this would cause me to lie to other players about what level of OOC conversation I find acceptable.
Awesome suggestion.
"...I am inclined to think the focus of the [Warmage's] spellbook should be ways to make things explode, to help you make things explode, or to assist your victim in exploding." -Armifer
DGUTHRIE2
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/14/2009 06:21 PM CST
>>I like how this would cause me to lie to other players about what level of OOC conversation I find acceptable.
Awesome suggestion.<<
Ya. No thanks. I dislike the whole profile system anyway, and fail to see why everyone gets up in arms about it on a regular basis. I wish there were a way to turn it off completely.
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<<DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG. >>
You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.
Solomon
Awesome suggestion.<<
Ya. No thanks. I dislike the whole profile system anyway, and fail to see why everyone gets up in arms about it on a regular basis. I wish there were a way to turn it off completely.
________________________________________
<<DISCLAIMER: THIS POSTER IS NOT A MEMBER OF STAFF AND HIS INFORMATION IS/MIGHT BE WRONG. >>
You flat out, absolutely, 100% have no idea what you're talking about.
Solomon
WOODHAMR3
Re: Who full profile breakdown
12/14/2009 07:34 PM CST
i get profiled in the airport enough as it is, i don't appreciate that being pushed into my gaming world just so we can all feel a little more "Safe".
-Mr. Glemm
-Mr. Glemm
