I gate Platinum a try. There where some nice players who made playing great and I enjoyed seeing them in game.

but there are some problems that kept cropping up that kept halting the enjoyment to often.

1. Finding a Teacher for anything was a minor problem. If asked in a general sort of way for a teacher people where busy, no problem there at all teachers aren't on call and on tap like a beer keg. But some players got hostile with it.

2. Asking someone to help get a character into a guild so they could join? People walking around of that guild and near it to boot, but instead of a willingness to move them one room past a stupid blocking NPC they tell you to re-roll. Lifting a finger over some littlest of tasks to aid with appeared to be too much.

3. If a character is being role played as a jerk please don't carry that over into the OOC chatter unless you really are a jerk. It is hard to glean such elements from texts on the screen. In OOC be as respectful to the other player as you would be to someone you where gaming with at the table. Keep IG and OG separate. Golden rule is a good guide rule.

4. Don't call a person a whiner or a reporting flager when someone has never reported or flaged something. How can someone report anything when that had little exposure to the other 12-18 players because everyone is doing their own thing.

5. Plat was fun in and of itself. Had more things going on then Kill critter, gain exp, level level level. RP was really fun as well but there are some little things that game mechanics mess up because it is helpful for when hundreds of people are playing at once but have not real purpose when there are only 12 people around. If a mechanic is limiting the flow of things then work around it.

Thanks again for the short but fun time. Sadly it was turning south quickly and just not worth 50 dollars a month for me. But someone else may have a different experience.

Just to address a few of these issues.


>>1. Finding a Teacher for anything was a minor problem. If asked in a general sort of way for a teacher people where busy, no problem there at all teachers aren't on call and on tap like a beer keg. But some players got hostile with it.


This is only a problem if you do not make yourself available at the gate or other places people congregate. Asking and expecting teachers to come to you is not going to work.




>>2. Asking someone to help get a character into a guild so they could join? People walking around of that guild and near it to boot, but instead of a willingness to move them one room past a stupid blocking NPC they tell you to re-roll. Lifting a finger over some littlest of tasks to aid with appeared to be too much.


Alion is a necromancer, not a trader. He was going to rob you blind and kill you if possible. You had hard time separating IC and OOC with this interaction.



>>3. If a character is being role played as a jerk please don't carry that over into the OOC chatter unless you really are a jerk. It is hard to glean such elements from texts on the screen. In OOC be as respectful to the other player as you would be to someone you where gaming with at the table. Keep IG and OG separate. Golden rule is a good guide rule.


I think most would say your passive agressiveness on chatter afte the slightest lack of coddling IG is what gets you this reaction. I for one often restrained myself in my replies to you and you still didn't like it.



>>4. Don't call a person a whiner or a reporting flager when someone has never reported or flaged something. How can someone report anything when that had little exposure to the other 12-18 players because everyone is doing their own thing.


You begged for necro belt knives then went on a metagaming rant, and stayed RP heavy, PVP closed the entire time you played. Really don't need to go into detail here.



>>5. Plat was fun in and of itself. Had more things going on then Kill critter, gain exp, level level level. RP was really fun as well but there are some little things that game mechanics mess up because it is helpful for when hundreds of people are playing at once but have not real purpose when there are only 12 people around. If a mechanic is limiting the flow of things then work around it.


Agree on some levels, but is those challenges that make Plat special.

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To clear up some confusion that seems to have been generated.

To the Alion thing. I was asking via chatter for a trader to help with something. You replied and where not a trader. This was not a RP moment. This was one of those little times a mechanic was being a minor pain.

Asking for a teacher and asking "If" they would be willing to come to the war mage guild to teach a class. Please explain the demands being made. I asked in the OOC venue and told I was being rude. twice no less even after apologizing and saying that was not what I intended.

Asking about a belt skinning knife someone would sell or be willing to help me obtain without have to walk all the way down to shard without jumper jewelry in OOC. A simple out of character request from one player to anther to the effect that if they had the ability to obtain something to would they be willing to help.

RP heavy and PvP closed makes me a reporter and a flager... I just had no interest in PvP, why would this be problem causing? PvP is not required to RP. And this is the type of RP I rather engage in.

All in all, frankly, you were very passive aggressive, and seemed to demonstrate an amazing lack of social skills and common courtesy.
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Hmm, I had been playing in this instance a short time and was trying to learn the social etiquette. Things that may have appeared as cries for coddling as you expressed where actually as they we're read. I was worried about coming into a new setting and doing something or saying something that would annoy someone while they where playing. pure and simple. I didn't want to ask 100s of questions like a tag along little brother. I asked and accepted any answer I was able to obtain.

"Pardon me while I sat in a corner stroking." As in have a brain based heart attack like stroke. Elements of the game where far more exciting and held more potential for enjoyment then I thought. This was not some dirty innuendo.

My talking about prime was saying how unhappy my experience had been there and plat appeared to so much better. I was happy and enjoying the game again as I once had a long time ago. You never had a bad experience some place, then found some just like it and enjoyed it more that you never talked about the unpleasant experiences with others before?

My choice to leave was not based purely one this instance. I had watched people interact via chatter. I also tried to gauge out well I fit into the group of players. This small a population I worried about coming across as something I wasn't trying to be.

You want to know why, honestly? You said you chattered and used an OOC mechanism so he was wrong, etc...

But the log:

Littles thinks: "Pardon me, but might there be a trader around Crossings by some chance?"

Using a gweth is IC. He responded IC.

Ryken
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lolbard 3.0

>>Littles thinks: "Pardon me, but might there be a trader around Crossings by some chance?"

>>Using a gweth is IC. He responded IC.

This. You requested a trader IC and a necromancer came to "assist you".

You needed OOC mechanic help, which is why I then spent 5 minutes in OOC whispers explaining your options and then ended the conversation. Short of coming out and saying "I'm a necromancer (outting myself was not going to happen), there was nothing I could have done to make you happy at that point. Keep in mind what you were asking was for a Trader (assumed) to let someone they didnt know into the trader guild.

Also note, you took my advice and it worked just fine.

Occasionally we get people like this in TF also, who aren't satisfied with the 100 plat they get, and some odds and ends of forged blades, forged armor, fletched longbows, and tanned leathers from whoever happens to be ATK and willing to help. Eventually, they get weaned, patience runs out, and they either press on and learn how to do things for themselves, or they go away.


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NMUs are not people. -GM Armifer

>>Eventually, they get weaned, patience runs out, and they either press on and learn how to do things for themselves, or they go away.

This generally has been true from my experience in Plat and long ago in Prime even to an extent. But, like every rule, it seems to have an exception or three.


Ryken
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lolbard 3.0

This sounds like it needs to continue in Complaints or Conflicts.

Or on the Plat Forums in either of the same topics.

Solomon


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