Dont know where else to put this, but, as a FTP moonmage, i had no idea that shadow servant was a sub only spell. The spell is available at level 25, but requires you to have like 200 ranks to cast it. Before then, it only tells you "you lack the experience." After that tells you, you need to sub. This a spell that costs 3 slots, it should tell you, IN GAME, you cant use it. (and why)

Alright, i am still complaining it is not in game, which is where it should be.

I am sorry that all these are not one big rambling complaint. But, i keep finding out more and more. As per that link, it looks like moon mages are the only guild to have an early level cap, have missing spells, and missing training methods? I really thought that by being FTP with a EXP boost, i would be playing the same game as subs outside a pretty large swath of the game, but the part i am locked out of keeps growing.

This is not the way you get new people, and new money flowing into the game. I am frustrated, and 99% of this frustration could of been alleviated with more in game explanations. I thought paying 2/3 of a subscription price, was good enough..

> I had the same issue. I wasted 3 hard earned spell slots on it. Plus being FTP I can't even go forget the spell without a paid visa.

Take advantage of one of the free visa's that take you to therengia. You don't have to pay to forget a spell on most F2Ps. Just do it while you're doing other quests.

I was just going by this, which says the quest was not doable, Are they talking about two different quests?-- Note: The astral travel quest cannot be completed by players with free accounts. This also means that the 100th circle ability cannot be used (as it requires advanced knowledge of the Astral Plane), although the 100th circle ability quest must be accomplished to level to 100th circle

<< I am frustrated, and 99% of this frustration could of been alleviated with more in game explanations.

I don't know if this primarily a F2P criticism, or just a criticism of how DR is designed. For the longest time, say the late 2000's, DR's production had a HUGE play and find out mentality. Every release had a PAFO listed after it (which I came to hate MORE than the dreaded SOON).

So many of the explanations of where to hunt, how to train, what spells to use, how to do just about anything, were learned by talking with other players, posting on the forums, and reading player personal websites (e.g. Olwyyd's). I literally remember in 2005 there were threads listing where to hunt or climb/swim being weekly reposted threads. Over time that information gathering morphed into Elanthipedia, which is run by players but hosted by Simutronics and I consider as approved by Simutronics as any website.

There was a push to get more information documented in game. The HELP and VERB verb was expanded immensely, but I remember those being done by a single GM. Could DR use a better tutorial system to teach players how to play? Sure. But there's also an additional cry from players who want more endgame stuff. But certainly I do not think that DR will ever have full IG documentation. There's simply too much to include and too much personal decision (which is the largest difference between it and Gemstone's more cookie-cutter, optimized system imo).

Just like planning your stats or spells, I feel figuring out how to play has been how DR was designed to be played. If anyone doesn't feel like they know where to go or what to do, ask around. Ask a variety of people for different opinions. Make sure you know your decision before you commit, especially for F2P accounts who are so restrictive. It's the one major thing that F2P will do, spend more of your time.

Nikpack

On one hand, i should of known about all of this because i can read elanthpedia, on the other, i should just PAFO.