Options are prob. limited.


I've about used up Orc Raiders and they've been awesome.


1. Tried Celps, but the whole bow thing really turned me off. Bow is the lowest weapon.

2. Purifiers don't really train any better than Raiders, and seem to be more dangerous.


Choices seem to be Zombies in the Boar Clan, or the H'hhiva (however they are spelled)



Evasion 516
Shield 480
Parry 468
Defense 485
Stealth 518
Sword 416
Bow 386


Reflex 50.


Any other suggestions post 3.0?

>>>>Purifiers don't really train any better than Raiders, and seem to be more dangerous.

>>Give DP Zealots a whirl.

I don't really get why but I've found zealots much easier than purifiers in terms of how often they hit. Plus they don't cast magic so they don't just suddenly stop teaching defenses as they rattle off a bunch of spells.

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>>Purifiers are def. not worth hunting (IMHO) in 3.0.

Purifiers would be better if:
1) They were more likely set to spawn near you. As it is, they spawn anywhere. Having to run around to find mobs is annoying.
2) Their attacks seem to hit me more often than other attacks of similar skill. I don't get why. I know the attack messaging is unique, but is it using a unique combat roll or something?
3) They didn't cast non-TM magic. As far as I can tell, non-TM magic doesn't even teach defenses. At least TM magic teaches defenses, I think.
4) You could see the damage being done. If I remember right it impossible's to view their wounds because of their uniquely set up look description.

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>>Their attacks do seem to bit more often...I suspect balance is more imp. in 3.0. Thus their unbalance, spell is more effective.

I think balance actually means less in 3.0. The big thing is just that if they're casting non-TM magic, it doesn't teach defenses as effectively.

>>I used to recommend them after Gryphons, now go straight to the manor is doable, and I think, is better teaching.

If you have Lay Ward to offset their TM (which I feel is a bit much), I'd suggest yellow gremlins.

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After Orc Raiders I hunted Scaly Seordmaor at Ker'Leor, northwest of Therenborough on the way between to Muspar'i.

Zombie Maulers, Basilisk/Shadow Beast, Mountain Giants...

You feel a brief sense of unease, as if somehow, somewhere, you'd run afoul of the law.