Second Tier Deer Broken? 12/08/2014 12:48 PM CST
I've been trying to work a bit of combats with my trader....

First tier deer don't move her skills at all
Vines dont move her skills at all

So I went to second tier deer, and got the warrior mage involved too, some buffs to be safe....

While the buffs were in place, the deer never touched her, however, she never learned anything, was lucky to get to 1/34 in things....

I let the buffs go, to test it.... 30 seconds after the buffs wore off, she was dead, well, destroyed!

Are second tier deer broken? I know traders don't have buffs, but it seems odd that they won't move her skills but kill her as soon as the buffs drop? I was in there for a good 45 minutes

Shield - 133
Evasion - 119
Light Armor - 119
Defending - 114
Weapons - 100 to 104

Armor was fully repaired, stance 100 evasion 80 shield, reflex 25.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Second Tier Deer Broken? 12/08/2014 02:02 PM CST
Re: dying. Were you wearing your shield? Regardless, you're on the very low end of the ranks they should be able to be hunted at (i.e. ~125) so I'm not surprised they eat you for lunch without buffs.

Re: experience. No clue, except that deer have a significant disparity between their offence and defence ability, so that might have something to do with it.

<<Defending - 114
<<Stance 100 evasion 80 shield

Completely aside... Just so you're aware, you should have one extra stance point from your defending skill. You'll get a second one in 6 ranks, and again every multiple of 60 ranks.



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Re: Second Tier Deer Broken? 12/08/2014 02:53 PM CST

Thanks for the reply - Yeah I agree on being at the low end, I figured initially when the warmies buffs were keeping her alive, that I'd found a great way to train.... but no experience at all was strange.

I was wondering if the buffs worked different now, and made it as if she had higher ranks so she didn't learn? but surely a change like that would be huge?

I know before the changes that the step up from first tier was seamless to the second tier, but that's definitely not the case now

It has made it a real pain to try to get any levels on the trader again - I'm now just collecting rocks while sitting in a class :(

The stance point in defending? I did just check, she is actually 100 evasion 81 shield, I've never heard that extra stance point as a defending one though, is that where they come from now? the number of ranks you have in the defending skill? Thats good to know, thanks for that heads up

I can understand the weapons not training, but the defenses was a surprise - I can only think something in the background is a bit odd
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Re: Second Tier Deer Broken? 12/08/2014 08:34 PM CST

Put down those rocks and hunt some Blue-Belly Crocs. Pretty good fit at your level. I just ran a trader through there and have him learning pretty good right now in swamp trolls.
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Re: Second Tier Deer Broken? 12/09/2014 02:44 AM CST
<<I've never heard that extra stance point as a defending one though, is that where they come from now? the number of ranks you have in the defending skill? Thats good to know, thanks for that heads up

Yes. Armor primary gets 1 every 50 ranks, secondary 1 every 60 ranks, and tertiary one every 70 ranks now. Circle has nothing to do with it anymore.



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