You could try snowbeasts and gargs on the way down, then frostweyr bears, then young cave trolls, and then togballs. Make a couple day trek of it so it seems like less of a wasted trip if togballs don't work out. Pretty sure at least one of those options would also work.

But in answer to your question: no, I don't know how accurate that 120 number is. I was able to work my lower 80-100 weapons on them pretty well, though, IIRC.

>If you are hunting blood wolves near El'Bains, why not hunt something closer instead of making a 'trek' (Takes like 20 minutes to get there...) to P5. There are young brocket deer, and vines/creepers right down the road.

Well, mostly because for a cleric who is willing to hunt cursed/undead stuff, P5 is amazing beyond words for several hundred ranks. Togballs to nearly 200, then tresses/bloodvines, then onward. Plus I really like it down there. I took another character through there a year or two ago.

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I can't remember specifically, but aren't the spiders under Theren Keep perfect for that range?

there are also graverobbers in Ain that should be easy for your defenses. With ~90 shield, 110 evasion three weren't tough. With those defenses, you could probably do Young cave trolls right now. If they're too easy, you could move over into retch fiends right next door. You're weapons might be a bit low, things are kind of tough over there; they really like to parry, bring a ranged weapon.

I appreciate the advice, all. I was, in this particular instance, with this particular character, really just planning on taking him down to P5 and camping him there for years. So I was hoping just for togball stats. But now when I hit the bloods cap again I'll have an idea where to take my next alt.

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So, also trying to raise up a thief around the same combat level, and it's killing me (literally? Ha, puns are bad). The lack of a consistent mpp/pfe/mapp damage soak it an amazing difference. Also only using storebought leathers. Snowies are decent trainers, but they tag the guy too often, and they're about a 'three hits till bleeding' critter, which makes it less than optimal having to drop out of hunting and go get healed every 10 minutes. He's cresting 100 in everything (weapons in the 90s, defenses in the 100s (except parry, it's straggling along at 70 because he uses a lot of ranged and I haven't reworked the stances/weaponry recently, and I got tired of it getting me killed)).

In a perfect world, I'd take him to skinnable and box dropping (both 100), but I'll settle for either. But has to be one. No undead?

Is it mandatory (or even worth it) to upgrade his armor at this point? Some chars I start blinged out, others I let grow into it.

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<<Is it mandatory (or even worth it) to upgrade his armor at this point? Some chars I start blinged out, others I let grow into it.

OMG you never told me this part!!!!!1111!!!1!!!1!one!
How hindered is your evasion in those?

Nikpack

<<Insig hinderance and light stealth. Was a non issue in my mind.

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Man, I was hoping that was the issue. Now to obsess why it's so difficult to fight snowbeasts at 100 ranks.

Nikpack

The blood wolves and scout/young ogres out the crossing west gate, or the haven ogres might work.
Young cave trolls in the Abandoned Mine near Raven's.
Fire maiden/young warcat (the one's with the milky teeth).
Crocs.

Oh sweet, I didn't even notice, razortusk sows must be somewhat new. Sounds perfect, looks like I'm stayin' on the islands for a little while longer. Thanks everyone for all your help!

>razortusk sows

FWIW, I didn't really notice much difference between the sows and silver leucros.