Browsing through some old posts I found the following:
*I thought I might share what I got at 90 stones on a Claymore (I call this a Claymattock):
A claymore is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
severe impact damage
You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is excellently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.**
Anyone make these anymore? I wouldn't mind testing one out if so.
---
But there's a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look'd upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Wither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
DRAIGATHAR013
NJP
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/23/2009 11:15 PM CDT
Wow, yes. Name, price and where I can pick one up, please. Pity it's not a greatsword, though.
Ogdaro
Ogdaro
COVERG
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 04:26 AM CDT
If they are still possible to make, I can make them. Give me a yell if you want me to try. (magdardr) I need to be in the forge to make a damite short sword anyway and can add these while I am doing the 2 hours of mixing required for the short sword.
______
Kertig Heart Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss
______
Kertig Heart Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss
ENOTS
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 09:23 AM CDT
Yummy!
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy
A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy
SUGARSNOUT
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 09:43 AM CDT
>You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced
None for me, thanks.
None for me, thanks.
GREIFENTHAL
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 11:20 AM CDT
Could someone explain how that would work when performing a chop..would it just default to the slice damage, contest both and go with what is greater, average the two or what?
NJP
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 12:23 PM CDT
Chop has both a slice and an impact component to the damage it deals. It would bring both into account. I believe chop favors the impact rating in the damage weighting, but slice is definitely a healthy part of it, too.
Ogdaro
Ogdaro
SOLARGAZE
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 04:23 PM CDT
I'll have 2-4 ingots made in about an hour or two and i'll find someone to pound it out for me.
-Vorp
-Vorp
SOLARGAZE
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 07:30 PM CDT
98 stone claymore - 8.16 stone density
2 is 1 ls mix 03 03 18 018
2 ls mix 02 05 16 034
4 ls mix mix 04 09 32 066
4 ls mix mix 04 13 32 098
1.5 dust mix mix
90 stone claymore - 7.5 stone density
2 is 1 ls mix 03 03 18 018
2 ls mix 02 05 16 034
4 ts mix mix 04 09 28 062
4 ts mix mix 04 13 28 090
1.5 dust mix mix
(this mix fixes the weight discrepency due to compression)
All blades used the 98 stone ingots.
This is a finished steel blade for a claymore, and the steel itself is hard, somewhat flexible, and somewhat heavy.
If the steel blade was finished right now, it appears as if it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
great impact damage
The blade would be dismally balanced and excellently suited for gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Fully Ground Edge (around 4 times did it fail on grind edge)
This is a finished steel blade for a claymore, and the steel itself is hard, somewhat flexible, and somewhat heavy.
If the steel blade was finished right now, it appears as if it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
heavy impact damage
The blade would be dismally balanced and excellently suited for gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Fully Ground Edge and point (2 overall failures)
They Compare about the same.
You are certain that the claymore is about as strong as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as balanced as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much puncture damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much slice damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much impact damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore weighs about the same as the claymore.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
A claymore is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
severe impact damage
You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is excellently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The claymore is made with metal.
You are certain that the claymore weighs exactly 98 stones.
You are certain that the claymore is worth exactly 700 lirums.
unground
Compared.
You are certain that the claymore is about as strong as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as balanced as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much puncture damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does somewhat less slice damage than the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does somewhat more impact damage than the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore weighs about the same as the claymore.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
So i was a bit off on the mix I didn't account for a one slug compression.
But that's basically it.
Even though RT isn't a huge issue, stamina is and wielding these weapons would seem to sap a bit of fatigue.
Basically I still think the lower weight basties end up being a lot better than claymores.
-Vorp
2 is 1 ls mix 03 03 18 018
2 ls mix 02 05 16 034
4 ls mix mix 04 09 32 066
4 ls mix mix 04 13 32 098
1.5 dust mix mix
90 stone claymore - 7.5 stone density
2 is 1 ls mix 03 03 18 018
2 ls mix 02 05 16 034
4 ts mix mix 04 09 28 062
4 ts mix mix 04 13 28 090
1.5 dust mix mix
(this mix fixes the weight discrepency due to compression)
All blades used the 98 stone ingots.
This is a finished steel blade for a claymore, and the steel itself is hard, somewhat flexible, and somewhat heavy.
If the steel blade was finished right now, it appears as if it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
great impact damage
The blade would be dismally balanced and excellently suited for gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Fully Ground Edge (around 4 times did it fail on grind edge)
This is a finished steel blade for a claymore, and the steel itself is hard, somewhat flexible, and somewhat heavy.
If the steel blade was finished right now, it appears as if it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
heavy impact damage
The blade would be dismally balanced and excellently suited for gaining extra attack power from your strength.
Fully Ground Edge and point (2 overall failures)
They Compare about the same.
You are certain that the claymore is about as strong as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as balanced as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much puncture damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much slice damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much impact damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore weighs about the same as the claymore.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
A claymore is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
severe impact damage
You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is excellently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The claymore is made with metal.
You are certain that the claymore weighs exactly 98 stones.
You are certain that the claymore is worth exactly 700 lirums.
unground
Compared.
You are certain that the claymore is about as strong as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as balanced as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore is about as suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does about as much puncture damage as the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does somewhat less slice damage than the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore does somewhat more impact damage than the claymore.
You are certain that the claymore weighs about the same as the claymore.
[Roundtime: 8 seconds]
So i was a bit off on the mix I didn't account for a one slug compression.
But that's basically it.
Even though RT isn't a huge issue, stamina is and wielding these weapons would seem to sap a bit of fatigue.
Basically I still think the lower weight basties end up being a lot better than claymores.
-Vorp
SOLARGAZE
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 07:41 PM CDT
98 stone claymore - 8.16 stone density
90 stone claymore - 7.5 stone density
I didn't preview and the numbers didn't make any sense so i'll give context to it. This is just my own numbering system that allows me to mix and match mixes. Plus i didn't use a table. All things which are fixed.
(this mix fixes the weight discrepency due to compression)
-Vorp
| mix line | # of slugs | total # of slugs | weight | total weight |
| 2 is 1 ls mix | 03 | 03 | 18 | 018 |
| 2 ls mix | 02 | 05 | 16 | 034 |
| 4 ls mix mix | 04 | 09 | 32 | 066 |
| 4 ls mix mix | 04 | 13 | 32 | 098 |
| 1.5 dust mix mix |
90 stone claymore - 7.5 stone density
| mix line | # of slugs | total # of slugs | weight | total weight |
| 2 is 1 ls mix | 03 | 03 | 18 | 018 |
| 2 ls mix | 02 | 05 | 16 | 034 |
| 4 ts mix mix | 04 | 09 | 28 | 062 |
| 4 ts mix mix | 04 | 13 | 28 | 090 |
| 1.5 dust mix mix |
I didn't preview and the numbers didn't make any sense so i'll give context to it. This is just my own numbering system that allows me to mix and match mixes. Plus i didn't use a table. All things which are fixed.
(this mix fixes the weight discrepency due to compression)
-Vorp
DRAIGATHAR013
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
03/24/2009 10:54 PM CDT
Forgive someone who isn't familiar at all with the forging system. Would you mind translating that for me?
---
But there's a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look'd upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Wither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
---
But there's a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look'd upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Wither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
SOLARGAZE
JHIME
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 04:31 PM CDT
A little late, but these are what I forge and use. I did a lot of testing and playing around with 2HE last month. It's about as good as it gets with regular metals as far as I can tell.
A claymore is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
severe impact damage
You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is excellently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The claymore is made with metal.
You are certain that the claymore weighs exactly 94 stones.
You are certain that the claymore is worth exactly 875 kronars.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
A greatsword is a two-handed edged pole-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
severe slice damage
great impact damage
You are certain that the greatsword is dismally balanced and is well suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the greatsword is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The greatsword is made with metal.
You are certain that the greatsword weighs exactly 97 stones.
You are certain that the greatsword is worth exactly 2500 kronars.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
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a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
A claymore is a two-handed edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
severe impact damage
You are certain that the claymore is dismally balanced and is excellently suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the claymore is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The claymore is made with metal.
You are certain that the claymore weighs exactly 94 stones.
You are certain that the claymore is worth exactly 875 kronars.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
A greatsword is a two-handed edged pole-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
severe slice damage
great impact damage
You are certain that the greatsword is dismally balanced and is well suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the greatsword is well constructed, and is in pristine condition.
The greatsword is made with metal.
You are certain that the greatsword weighs exactly 97 stones.
You are certain that the greatsword is worth exactly 2500 kronars.
Roundtime: 5 seconds.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/Sirzason/wmsheet2.jpg
a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
WISECRACKDRAGON
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 04:49 PM CDT
Going by memory, I believe the stats on my greatsword (Drevid-forged IIRC) are:
<irrelevant> puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
heavy impact damage
poorly balanced, well suited, very strong construction and 104 stones.
I'm not 100% sure though and would have to fish it out of the vault to check. Using lighter weapons right now because of the lower RT.
Maulem exclaims, "Stop shootin da wimmins!"
Gene Police! You, outta the pool!
<irrelevant> puncture damage
bone-crushing slice damage
heavy impact damage
poorly balanced, well suited, very strong construction and 104 stones.
I'm not 100% sure though and would have to fish it out of the vault to check. Using lighter weapons right now because of the lower RT.
Maulem exclaims, "Stop shootin da wimmins!"
Gene Police! You, outta the pool!
JHIME
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 05:09 PM CDT
I'd be interested in seeing if that is possible. All the mixes I used for swords that heavy weren't really grindable.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/Sirzason/wmsheet2.jpg
a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/Sirzason/wmsheet2.jpg
a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
TYCH
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 05:41 PM CDT
I do three flavors of greatswords.
60 stone greatsword - (l,bc,f,p,r very strong) 13 edge
80 stone greatsword - (l,bc,m,p,r very strong) 10 edge
102 stone greatsword - (l,bc,h,p,w very strong) 7 edge
The # edge is how many grinds it takes me
Drevid
http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html
Cylons... why debugging matters.
60 stone greatsword - (l,bc,f,p,r very strong) 13 edge
80 stone greatsword - (l,bc,m,p,r very strong) 10 edge
102 stone greatsword - (l,bc,h,p,w very strong) 7 edge
The # edge is how many grinds it takes me
Drevid
http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html
Cylons... why debugging matters.
RAIST
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 05:42 PM CDT
drool
How much for an 80 stone?
Magic's Death Caraamon Makdasi,
Gor'Tog Barbarian Extrordi...Well somewhat average
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
How much for an 80 stone?
Magic's Death Caraamon Makdasi,
Gor'Tog Barbarian Extrordi...Well somewhat average
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
TYCH
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 05:51 PM CDT
<<How much for an 80 stone?
Give me a holler at DrevidDR on AIM
Drevid
http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html
Cylons... why debugging matters.
Give me a holler at DrevidDR on AIM
Drevid
http://www.phiiskeep.homestead.com/Barbarian.html
Cylons... why debugging matters.
JHIME
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/07/2009 05:56 PM CDT
Very nice. Now I'm curious if it's a mix thing or a guild thing.
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a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/Sirzason/wmsheet2.jpg
a black panther comes flying into view! it hits the ground, bouncing once before sliding to a stop.
A black panther is stunned!
COVERG
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/08/2009 12:52 PM CDT
OK, This is a mile stone for me... I just hit 600 forging factor in 2he!
forging factor for 2he =(2he*6+me+le+he+mech)/10
WEEE!!!!!!
_____
Kertig Heart Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss
forging factor for 2he =(2he*6+me+le+he+mech)/10
WEEE!!!!!!
_____
Kertig Heart Magdar Bluefletch, Legendary Barbarian of M'Riss
WISECRACKDRAGON
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/08/2009 12:58 PM CDT
Congrats!
Going by that formula, I'm at 117. That's what I get for having no mech or le/me skill.
Maulem exclaims, "Stop shootin da wimmins!"
Gene Police! You, outta the pool!
Going by that formula, I'm at 117. That's what I get for having no mech or le/me skill.
Maulem exclaims, "Stop shootin da wimmins!"
Gene Police! You, outta the pool!
DGUTHRIE2
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/08/2009 05:51 PM CDT
Blade Forge Factor
Light Edge: 272.3
Medium Edge: 257.8
Heavy Edge: 293.3
TwoHanded Edge: 299.8
Working on it. The sad part is my mech lore is higher than my edged weapons.
________________________________________
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein
Light Edge: 272.3
Medium Edge: 257.8
Heavy Edge: 293.3
TwoHanded Edge: 299.8
Working on it. The sad part is my mech lore is higher than my edged weapons.
________________________________________
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein
JMF90
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/09/2009 03:26 PM CDT
Edges
Light Edged: 390.6
Medium Edged: 368.6
Heavy Edged: 350.6
Twohanded Edged: 387.1
Blunts
Light Blunt: 325.7
Medium Blunt: 318.2
Heavy Blunt: 305.2
Twohanded Blunt: 319.2
Armor
Light Chain: 519.5
Heavy Chain: 503
Light Plate 308
Heavy Plate: 306.8
As a moon mage, how well could I expect to forge? When can non-barbarians start grinding?
Also, what's the formula for halberd/pike? Similar to the armor formulas?
( Calculator here for the math-adverse: http://dr.six-something.org/ff.php )
Light Edged: 390.6
Medium Edged: 368.6
Heavy Edged: 350.6
Twohanded Edged: 387.1
Blunts
Light Blunt: 325.7
Medium Blunt: 318.2
Heavy Blunt: 305.2
Twohanded Blunt: 319.2
Armor
Light Chain: 519.5
Heavy Chain: 503
Light Plate 308
Heavy Plate: 306.8
As a moon mage, how well could I expect to forge? When can non-barbarians start grinding?
Also, what's the formula for halberd/pike? Similar to the armor formulas?
( Calculator here for the math-adverse: http://dr.six-something.org/ff.php )
NEELD
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
04/09/2009 06:10 PM CDT
You have the ability to cap any piece of armor known, except for the lightest half-plate/field plate. Your mixing will need some work to get the best results, but you have the appropriate forging factors.
Madigan
Free the Paladin Guild in 2009.
Madigan
Free the Paladin Guild in 2009.
MWMASON
Re: Heavy Forged Claymore
05/11/2009 10:06 AM CDT
Oh man,
If you have the time, would you mind if I gave you a shout? Would love one of those swords :-)
If you have the time, would you mind if I gave you a shout? Would love one of those swords :-)
