What is your stance for your other defences?

Is it:
Evasion 25%
Parry 100%
Shield 0%?

Basically how defenses work in DR is that evasion is checked first, then shield or parry. So what you want to do for parry training is to start out at 100% evasion/80% parry. If you dodge every shot, bring your evasion down bit by bit and increase your parry by that same amount until you start to parry consistently.

Better balanced weapons will help parry better, but the first thing you want to look at is your stances. So no, I learn parry with my bastard sword just fine, even with buff spells (though where you got SOP from as a cleric I am befuddled. PFE, MPP and MAPP against meys will work wonders though).

Also, parry sticks do not work if you have anything in your right hand. Mostly they are useful for brawling or offhand training.

Keep asking questions if this doesn't make sence or my suggestions don't help. Someone can help ya.

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Don't lose the parry stick. No reason not to have it. Helps if you're absent minded or you drop your weapon.

Thanks for all the replies.

SOP is from a scroll.
I do train shield, it's my highest defense.
Stance is 20% evasion, 100% parry, 40% shield. I still dodge sometimes with that.
All defenses are within 10 ranks of each other.

I'm able to lock parry but it takes a lot of finesse and work. My question is: will it get easier?

Also, I've heard that some people use the super-horrible bucklers from ogres to mess up their hindrance so they can learn parry. Any thoughts or advice on this tactic?

Thanks again!

Try using MPP instead of SOP when you're training parry: SOP is the spell you want for training evasion, or if you're in an area with a ranger casting swarm.

Everyone else has already covered everything else. :)

Ryeka


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What I find wierd is that you are using SOP, and not using PFE. PFE provides a physical defense boost- essentially evasion though apparently not exactly, and protection against the Mey's special attack.

I am guessing though that you are near Mey's soft cap. I don't remember what their soft cap is, but you can learn Shield, especially in a swarm, past parry. Probably time to move up. If you are using SOP regularly(good for you!), you should be able to move up even easier. If you are on Aesry, that probably means moving up to Snow Goblins I guess. If you are in Leth, maybe moving down to Shard and steeds, or up to Crossing and Dark Spirits.

Oh yeah- use MPP too, like was suggested. I learn parry by the way with all sorts of weapons


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Also, a 28 stone bastard sword should work very well when parrying, so no need to use another weapon type.

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Anyone notice any stealth hinderance from a parry stick? I haven't used one since a week or so after they came out, and at that time I noticed some significant stealth hinderance.


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>I don't remember what their soft cap is, but you can learn Shield, especially in a swarm, past parry.

On a side note the reason for that is that Shield is considered an Armor while parry and evasion are combat skills. Typicaly you can learn armor from somthing for far longer than they will teach evasion/parry.

>I find that running a 100 parry/shield, 80 evasion works just fine for learning all my defenses (keep swapping back and forth).

I'm curious. Why would anyone run a 100 parry 80 evasion or 100 shield 80 evasion setup when they could run a 100 parry 100 evasion or 100 shield 100 evasion?

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For a spell caster who is busy casting while dancing, 0 offense doesn't work well. I tried using macro's going back and forth to take advantage, but found it just easier to keep my offense at full so I could utilize my magics to full advantage.


"militantly enforcing the overly rigid standards of you and your small collection of friends"

Stance attack lower, you will get extra defensive points.

>Tigerclaw, you're misunderstanding what Galren's suggestion was.

Unles off course you trying to move Parry or Shield instead of Evasion. If you are hunting at level and have evasion stanced at100% unfortunately the way the game mechanics work now the first Defence check is ALWAYS evasion. What that means with evasion stanced at 100% you will almoust ALWAYS evade unles you are outmatched by what you hunt, overburdened or hindered. If you evade you wont parry or block so wont learn either of those.

Thank you for clearing up the "How do you get 100/100 for evasion/Parry". But if you wish to move parry/shield insted of evasion all the time (provided you are hunting at level) you need to stance your evasion down as it is always the first form of defenced checked by the game mechanics as is.

>What that means with evasion stanced at 100% you will almoust ALWAYS evade unles you are outmatched by what you hunt, overburdened or hindered.

I never really run into this issue because I move up the critter ladder if I'm able to dance at the engagement cap and am evading attacks moreso than parrying or shield blocking them. I've never hunted without having evasion stanced at 100%.

It's a valid concern, though, dependant upon training style. Good point.


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