I talked Edgee into an experiment for me. I wanted a medium edge weapon with good balance. I got what I asked for. It is balanced and tempered.
A glaes thrusting blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat heavy puncture damage
somewhat fair slice damage
dismal impact damage
You are certain that the blade is unbelievably balanced and is not suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is quite guarded against damage, and is in pristine condition.
The thrusting blade is made with metal.
You are certain that the thrusting blade weighs exactly 15 stones.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is worth exactly 223592 kronars.
Looking forward to using this to train parry. Check out that balance. I am VERY happy with the results.
Telrenth
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BEVERAGEK
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
08/24/2011 06:43 PM CDT
Hahaha nice, should be interesting using that to parry.
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LAUGHINGGOD
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
08/25/2011 10:55 PM CDT
I like it...I've modelled my young barb as a LE/ME poker dual wielder and that's one balanced blade!
JHALIASCLERIC
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
11/25/2011 01:22 PM CST
All my mains are medium/low strength, high agility, so a ME with that kind of balance, but slicer would be neato.
FALLENSHADOWS
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
11/25/2011 03:39 PM CST
>>All my mains are medium/low strength, high agility, so a ME with that kind of balance, but slicer would be neato.
thrusters are going to have more balance, in general. But a light weight Scimitar can still give you some nice balance.
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ALEPH-ONE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
11/26/2011 04:02 AM CST
>>All my mains are medium/low strength, high agility, so a ME with that kind of balance, but slicer would be neato.
Yes, slicers are much harder to find that kind of balance on. Best I have seen for a slicer (with equal or better slice than that thing's puncture) is reasonably (7) balanced, compared to the thruster's unbelievably (13).
Unless you count Leilond's mirror blade, which is somewhat heavy (8) slice and unbelievably (13) balanced. :-p
-- Player of Eyuve
Yes, slicers are much harder to find that kind of balance on. Best I have seen for a slicer (with equal or better slice than that thing's puncture) is reasonably (7) balanced, compared to the thruster's unbelievably (13).
Unless you count Leilond's mirror blade, which is somewhat heavy (8) slice and unbelievably (13) balanced. :-p
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FALLENSHADOWS
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
11/26/2011 08:54 AM CST
well I have a mix that might produce something like that, it at the very least produces very balanced steel ones. But I need to get my hands on a few glaes volumes to test it out.
I know my Glaes Sabre is pretty much a beast and probably one of the best backstabbing weapons(short of tyrium) in the game at this point.
_______________________
As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
I know my Glaes Sabre is pretty much a beast and probably one of the best backstabbing weapons(short of tyrium) in the game at this point.
_______________________
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
11/30/2011 06:49 PM CST
A steel scimitar is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
somewhat heavy slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the scimitar is soundly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the steel scimitar is somewhat unsound against damage, and is in pristine condition.
This is the best possible with normal metals, just for reference.
Codiax.
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http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
You are certain that it could do:
low puncture damage
somewhat heavy slice damage
low impact damage
You are certain that the scimitar is soundly balanced and is fairly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the steel scimitar is somewhat unsound against damage, and is in pristine condition.
This is the best possible with normal metals, just for reference.
Codiax.
Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
USAF-SPARKY
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 01:15 AM CST
Also to add a note, my two thrusting blades I had made that came out unbelievably balanced both got nerfed back to incredibly balanced when balance was tweaked recently. Very unhappy about that. Wish they'd at least managed to stay in the new amazingly balanced range.
A glaes thrusting blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat heavy puncture damage
somewhat fair slice damage
dismal impact damage
You are certain that the blade is incredibly balanced and is not suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is quite guarded against damage, and is in pristine condition.
Telrenth
A glaes thrusting blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat heavy puncture damage
somewhat fair slice damage
dismal impact damage
You are certain that the blade is incredibly balanced and is not suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is quite guarded against damage, and is in pristine condition.
Telrenth
ALEPH-ONE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 01:22 AM CST
What's the weight on that please Codiax?
-- Player of Eyuve
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DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 01:43 AM CST
>>What's the weight on that please Codiax?
22 stones.
You could get a superbly balanced rapier with normal steel if you're looking exclusively for balance, or using the same scimitar template, get up to very heavy slice at the cost of two levels of balance.
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You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
22 stones.
You could get a superbly balanced rapier with normal steel if you're looking exclusively for balance, or using the same scimitar template, get up to very heavy slice at the cost of two levels of balance.
*******
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You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
INCARNATION
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 02:47 AM CST
>>Also to add a note, my two thrusting blades I had made that came out unbelievably balanced both got nerfed back to incredibly balanced when balance was tweaked recently. Very unhappy about that. Wish they'd at least managed to stay in the new amazingly balanced range.
I don't think the blades actual balance was affected. I believe the balance change was just tweaking the messaging ranges. There was no nerf.
I don't think the blades actual balance was affected. I believe the balance change was just tweaking the messaging ranges. There was no nerf.
MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 08:37 AM CST
>>Also to add a note, my two thrusting blades I had made that came out unbelievably balanced both got nerfed back to incredibly balanced when balance was tweaked recently. Very unhappy about that. Wish they'd at least managed to stay in the new amazingly balanced range.
Yeah for whatever reason they didn't want normal-rare metals to reach those ranges so to me it looks like they increased the size of the incredibly range. You probably need lightened Tyrium to reach unbelievably now possibly, not sure on that one.
My Sledgehammer had annihilating impact and unbelievably suited - after the change it went to overwhelming impact and incredibly suited. Although the stats are exactly the same it doesn't look as cool. :(
>>22 stones.
Yep.
>>You could get a superbly balanced rapier with normal steel if you're looking exclusively for balance, or using the same scimitar template, get up to very heavy slice at the cost of two levels of balance.
The original person asked for the best balanced ME slicer i think?
Also the rapier is the exact same thing as the thrusting blade which I think can achieve incredibly balanced with just normal metals (bet that irks you Telrenth heh)
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Yeah for whatever reason they didn't want normal-rare metals to reach those ranges so to me it looks like they increased the size of the incredibly range. You probably need lightened Tyrium to reach unbelievably now possibly, not sure on that one.
My Sledgehammer had annihilating impact and unbelievably suited - after the change it went to overwhelming impact and incredibly suited. Although the stats are exactly the same it doesn't look as cool. :(
>>22 stones.
Yep.
>>You could get a superbly balanced rapier with normal steel if you're looking exclusively for balance, or using the same scimitar template, get up to very heavy slice at the cost of two levels of balance.
The original person asked for the best balanced ME slicer i think?
Also the rapier is the exact same thing as the thrusting blade which I think can achieve incredibly balanced with just normal metals (bet that irks you Telrenth heh)
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/01/2011 09:28 AM CST
A steel thrusting blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat heavy puncture damage
somewhat fair slice damage
poor impact damage
You are certain that the blade is incredibly balanced and is terribly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is somewhat unsound against damage, and is in pristine condition.
The thrusting blade is made with metal.
You are certain that the thrusting blade weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is worth exactly 2452 dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Codiax.
Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
You are certain that it could do:
somewhat heavy puncture damage
somewhat fair slice damage
poor impact damage
You are certain that the blade is incredibly balanced and is terribly suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is somewhat unsound against damage, and is in pristine condition.
The thrusting blade is made with metal.
You are certain that the thrusting blade weighs exactly 18 stones.
You are certain that the thrusting blade is worth exactly 2452 dokoras.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
Codiax.
Forged Weapons:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Codiax#Codiax-Forged-Weapons
USAF-SPARKY
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 08:20 AM CST
Yeah, I knew that steel could reach incredible balance, so when my glaes blade was first made and came out unbelievable, I was happy. Even with having no suitedness due to how light it is. Once the range changes came about... Yeah, not so happy because it appraises the same as steel on balance. I doubt there is a metal now that can reach above incredible balance with any FORGED medium edged. Mirror blade is the only thing I've heard of in the hands of the right person. That 3 stones in less weight gained no balance and lost suitedness with current appraisal. It may be a bit higher than steel, but it can't be seen with how appraisal works. At least the construction is still higher than steel so I can parry with it longer between repairs.
Telrenth
Telrenth
HEITAK
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 09:11 AM CST
What is the highest app a mirror blade has got too?
Heitak
BEVERAGEK
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 09:26 AM CST
>>What is the highest app a mirror blade has got too?
Not sure about highest, but here is mine.
You can see the challenge to your abilities reflected among the ancient runes etched into the bright surface of the blade.
A T'Kashi mirror blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair (5/25) puncture damage
somewhat heavy (8/25) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/25) impact damage
You are certain that the blade is amazingly (13/13) balanced and is incredibly (12/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the mirror blade is nearly impervious to damage (17/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
The mirror blade is made with metal.
You are certain that the mirror blade weighs exactly 24 stones.
You are unable to determine the value of the mirror blade.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
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Not sure about highest, but here is mine.
You can see the challenge to your abilities reflected among the ancient runes etched into the bright surface of the blade.
A T'Kashi mirror blade is a medium edged melee-ranged weapon.
You are certain that it could do:
fair (5/25) puncture damage
somewhat heavy (8/25) slice damage
somewhat fair (4/25) impact damage
You are certain that the blade is amazingly (13/13) balanced and is incredibly (12/13) suited to gaining extra attack power from your strength.
You are certain that the mirror blade is nearly impervious to damage (17/18), and is in pristine condition (98-100%).
The mirror blade is made with metal.
You are certain that the mirror blade weighs exactly 24 stones.
You are unable to determine the value of the mirror blade.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
~Leilond
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DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 10:11 AM CST
>>Not sure about highest, but here is mine.
I think that's capped, that's the highest I've ever seen it.
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Vibrant orange flames seem to flicker in the Solomon's GM eyes, capturing your attention with a mesmerising stare.
You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
I think that's capped, that's the highest I've ever seen it.
*******
Vibrant orange flames seem to flicker in the Solomon's GM eyes, capturing your attention with a mesmerising stare.
You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
BEVERAGEK
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 12:19 PM CST
Pretty sure the strength can get to amazing as well, but I only have 70 strength. I probably need 80 to get it to 13/13.
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DIMINISHEDANGEL
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 01:14 PM CST
>>Pretty sure the strength can get to amazing as well, but I only have 70 strength. I probably need 80 to get it to 13/13.
Ah yes, I didn't notice that the suitability wasn't capped.
*******
Vibrant orange flames seem to flicker in the Solomon's GM eyes, capturing your attention with a mesmerising stare.
You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
Ah yes, I didn't notice that the suitability wasn't capped.
*******
Vibrant orange flames seem to flicker in the Solomon's GM eyes, capturing your attention with a mesmerising stare.
You feel a calm wash over you, but you think about internet arguments and nerd rage, and it goes away.
MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 02:51 PM CST
That thing is rediculous.
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ALEPH-ONE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 04:50 PM CST
Was there a post I missed somewhere about appraisal ranges changing? Did unbelievably change into amazingly or did they add a range somewhere?
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RAIST
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 05:11 PM CST
I was told that amazingly was inserted before unbelievably, but another PC. So take it as you will.
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ALEPH-ONE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 06:03 PM CST
>>I was told that amazingly was inserted before unbelievably, but another PC. So take it as you will.
I guess we'll find out from Leilond's mirror blade. If the balance goes from amazing to unbelievable, we'll know that unbelievable still exists and is at the top.
If the suitedness goes from incredible to either unbelievable or amazing, we'll know which is just above incredible.
Leilond... I expect updates. ;)
-- Player of Eyuve
I guess we'll find out from Leilond's mirror blade. If the balance goes from amazing to unbelievable, we'll know that unbelievable still exists and is at the top.
If the suitedness goes from incredible to either unbelievable or amazing, we'll know which is just above incredible.
Leilond... I expect updates. ;)
-- Player of Eyuve
EDERICK
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/02/2011 06:37 PM CST
I think its the other way around, amazing is what used to be the very top end unbelievably. Kodius posted about it when the change was put in.
RAYJE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/03/2011 12:28 AM CST
>>All my mains are medium/low strength, high agility, so a ME with that kind of balance, but slicer would be neato.
Polished Elven Telo - well balanced (9/13) 16 stones.
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Weapon:Polished_elven_telo
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
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Polished Elven Telo - well balanced (9/13) 16 stones.
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Weapon:Polished_elven_telo
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/03/2011 07:55 AM CST
The old forging system had a soundly balanced ME slicer as well, the 14 stone cutlass was somewhat fair/moderate/poor soundly/inadequately.
I think I was the only one that made them then - they didn't sell well probably only a couple exist because of that. Everyone just wanted scims even though they weren't as good.
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I think I was the only one that made them then - they didn't sell well probably only a couple exist because of that. Everyone just wanted scims even though they weren't as good.
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RAYJE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/03/2011 05:21 PM CST
>Everyone just wanted scims even though they weren't as good.
I believe the bigger problem was the old cutlass template had lousy construction. I wanted a decent cutlass for one my alts for the longest time but I didnt want to have it snap in half. I remember Veldehar forging a kertig cutlass and it still having lousy construction.
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
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I believe the bigger problem was the old cutlass template had lousy construction. I wanted a decent cutlass for one my alts for the longest time but I didnt want to have it snap in half. I remember Veldehar forging a kertig cutlass and it still having lousy construction.
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/04/2011 10:20 AM CST
>>I believe the bigger problem was the old cutlass template had lousy construction. I wanted a decent cutlass for one my alts for the longest time but I didnt want to have it snap in half. I remember Veldehar forging a kertig cutlass and it still having lousy construction.
yeah that was true, but for the year or so prior to new forging they put minimum durability on weapons which was pretty good
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yeah that was true, but for the year or so prior to new forging they put minimum durability on weapons which was pretty good
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RAYJE
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/05/2011 02:40 AM CST
>yeah that was true, but for the year or so prior to new forging they put minimum durability on weapons which was pretty good
Darn I missed that. What was the minimum?
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
You search the orc raider.
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Darn I missed that. What was the minimum?
>exp magic
Inner Magic: 346 28% Sparkling!(35/34)
You search the orc raider.
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MARGASH
Re: Glaes Thrusting Blade
12/05/2011 10:50 AM CST
>What is the highest app a mirror blade has got too?
under old appraisal system i got unbelievable/unbelievable, with 99 in stats. with khri could boost to 120 agility, 118 strength, but wasn't necessary.
i goofed one time and dropped it while running around, and didn't notice for a few hours, by which point is was gone. the sad part is it wasn't a goofed up script that did it, but one of the times i was playing by hand. whoops.
i'll try to borrow one and get new app
